SOUND PROJECTIONS
AN ONLINE QUARTERLY MUSIC MAGAZINE
EDITOR: KOFI NATAMBU
SUMMER, 2019
VOLUME SEVEN NUMBER TWO
HOLLAND DOZIER HOLLAND
(L-R: Lamont Dozier, Eddie Holland, Brian Holland)
Featuring the Musics and Aesthetic Visions of:
SHIRLEY SCOTT
(June 15-21)
FREDDIE HUBBARD
(June 22-28)
BILL WITHERS
(June 29- July 5)
OUTKAST
(July 6-12)
J. J. JOHNSON
(July 13-19)
JIMMY SMITH
(July 20-26)
JACKIE WILSON
(July 27-August 2)
LITTLE RICHARD
(August 3-9)
KENNY BARRON
(August 10-16)
BLIND LEMON JEFFERSON
(August 17-23)
MOS DEF
(August 24-30)
BLIND BOY FULLER
(August 31-September 6)
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/outkast-mn0000420381/biography
16 March 2017
https://www.allmusic.com/artist/outkast-mn0000420381/biography
Outkast
(1992-Present)
Artist Biography by John Bush
OutKast's blend of gritty Southern soul, fluid raps, and the low-slung funk of their Organized Noize
production crew epitomized the Atlanta wing of hip-hop's rising force,
the Dirty South, during the mid to late '90s. Along with Goodie Mob, OutKast
took Southern hip-hop in bold and innovative directions: less reliance
on aggression, more positivity and melody, thicker arrangements, and
intricate lyrics. After Dré and Big Boi
hit number one on the rap charts with their first single, "Player's
Ball," the duo embarked on a run of platinum albums spiked with several
hit singles, enjoying numerous critical accolades in addition to their
commercial success.
André Benjamin (Dré) and Antwan Patton (Big Boi)
attended the same high school in the Atlanta borough of East Point, and
several lyrical battles made each gain respect for the other's skills.
They formed OutKast and were pursued by Organized Noize Productions, hitmakers for TLC and Xscape. Signed to Antonio "L.A." Reid and Babyface's local LaFace label just after high school, OutKast
recorded and released "Player's Ball," then watched the single rise to
number one on the rap chart. It slipped from the top spot only after six
weeks, was certified gold, and created a buzz for a full-length
release. That album, Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, hit the Top 20 in 1994 and was certified platinum by the end of the year. Dré and Big Boi also won Best New Rap Group of the Year at the 1995 Source Awards.
OutKast returned with a new album in 1996, releasing ATLiens
that August; it hit number two and went platinum with help from the
gold-selling single "Elevators (Me & You)" (number 12 pop, number
one rap), as well as the Top 40 title track. Aquemini
followed in 1998, also hitting number two and going double platinum.
There were no huge hit singles this time around, but critics lavishly
praised the album's unified, progressive vision, hailing it as a great
leap forward and including it on many year-end polls. Unfortunately, in a
somewhat bizarre turn of events, OutKast
was sued over the album's lead single, "Rosa Parks," by none other than
the civil rights pioneer herself, who claimed that the group had
unlawfully appropriated her name to promote their music, also objecting
to some of the song's language. The initial court decision dismissed the
suit in late 1999. (The Supreme Court later allowed the lawsuit to
proceed; the two parties eventually reached a settlement.)
Dré modified his name to André 3000 before the group issued its hotly anticipated fourth album, Stankonia, in late 2000. Riding the momentum of uniformly excellent reviews and the stellar singles "B.O.B." and "Ms. Jackson," Stankonia
debuted at number two and went triple platinum in just a few months;
meanwhile, "Ms. Jackson" became their first number one pop single the
following February. Both of those major singles and most of the album
material -- all but three contributions from Organized Noize, in fact --
were produced by a trio dubbed Earthtone III (aka André 3000, Big Boi,
and David "Mr. DJ" Sheats).
2003's Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, a double album, debuted at number one and spawned a pair of number one singles: the Dré-fronted "Hey Ya" and the Big Boi-fronted "The Way You Move." Speakerboxxx, more true to OutKast's past, could have been issued as a Big Boi solo album, while The Love Below, a diverse and playful affair, could have been an André 3000
release. Regardless of its dual nature, the set won the 2004 Grammy for
Album of the Year. As breakup rumors continued to swirl, the duo
returned with the feature film Idlewild -- a musical set in the
Prohibition-era South -- and an extremely eclectic soundtrack billed as a
proper OutKast album. Big Boi issued a solo album, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty in 2010, while André 3000
produced and/or appeared on a series of tracks by the likes of John
Legend ("Green Light"), Beyoncé ("Party"), Lloyd ("Dedication to My Ex
[Miss That])," and Young Jeezy ("I Do").
15 Years Ago, Outkast Made an Album So Good It Completely Rewrote the Rules of Hip-Hop
When Outkast first introduced audiences to Stankonia 15 years
ago, the group made sure listeners knew exactly where they were. They
were at "the center of the Earth, seven light-years below sea level," as
Andre 3000 says in the opening words of the album — "the place from
which all funky things come."
They were also in a studio in the Berkeley Park neighborhood of Atlanta, which Outkast had bought and named Stankonia shortly before beginning to record the album that would make the space legendary. More importantly, Stankonia was a place "where you can open yourself up and be free to express anything," Andre 3000 later said in an interview. It was here, careening between Atlanta and Atlantis, Outkast conceived an album that would change hip-hop forever.
The singles "Ms. Jackson" and "So Fresh, So Clean" are still irresistibly quotable. The deep cuts are still some of the most rewarding experimental hip-hop around. It was the album most hip-hop skeptics had to admit they liked. More than most other albums in the early '00s, Stankonia helped hip-hop build its foundation in the mainstream, where still it stands unfuckwithable today.
While proving how hook-y and marketable the genre could be, it gave the world a glimpse of how far the borders could expand. Spread across a tapestry of funk, psychedelic hard rock, gospel and jazz, Outkast's Stankonia proved hip-hop could outline spiritual conundrums just as effectively as it could describe the traps lining the edges of the ghetto. Music still feels the reverberations today.
Welcome to Stankonia. The album hit the shelves at a pivotal moment in Outkast's career. The duo were coming off a smash success with Aquemini, which had earned a perfect five-mic rating from the Source, the "bible of the genre," Creative Loafing notes. If Outkast wanted to surpass Aquemini with the next release, they knew they would need to reach beyond what hip-hop had attempted before.
"We're in the age of keeping it real, but we're trying to keep it surreal," Andre 3000 once said of the album's mission. He and Big Boi made a point of listening to no hip-hop while recording so as not to fall into any of the cliches they saw developing in the genre. Instead, they turned to Prince, George Clinton and Little Richard, but were careful not to go too deep. "I don't want this to be the generation that went back to '70s rock," Andre 3000 told Vibe. "You gotta take it and do new things with it."
The results are clear in "B.O.B," a searing fusion of Hendrix rock distortion and hyper-fast dancing breakbeats; "Humble Mumble," with its dreamy ballad piano lines floating over unrelenting syncopated snares and scratches; and the apocalyptic funk guitar work of "Gangsta Shit." Each beat is more experimental than the last, veering dangerously close to random at times, each another challenge to hip-hop to step its game up.
Finding that funk: The lyrics match the searching nature of the beats, with Andre 3000 and Big Boi's words narrating their quest for the funk. Said "funk," however, was a metaphor for so much more.
"I guess we're talking about an individual freedom," Andre 3000 told Fader. "Finding that gateway that opens you up, that frees you up mentally so you won't be stuck in a... a... I don't want to say a corporate mindstate, but more like a trained mindstate."
That search for freedom helped open up hip-hop for so many to follow. It gave those who worked on the album and in Atlanta's extended Dungeon Family scene an impeccable credential, helping launch the careers of Cee-Lo Green, Killer Mike and Future (cousin to Rico Wade, one of the producers in Organized Noise, responsible for three Stankonia tracks). Andre 3000 basically wrote the blueprint for the quirky genius in hip-hop, a model MCs like Young Thug to Kendrick Lamar are rewriting today.
"Outkast has opened up so many doors, for not just for myself, but artists of color," Janelle Monáe, one of today's torch-bearers of the alternative hip-hop, said in an interview with Complex. "They basically rewrote how hip hop could sound, what it could look like, how we could dress, things we could say, the live instrumentation in music."
Source: Mic/Getty Images
That freedom came with a bit of a price. The overwhelming creative energy the album barely managed to contain also likely sowed the seeds for the group's eventual dissolution. Listening to the album now, one can hear Andre 3000 and Big Boi's flows start to diverge into idiosyncratic territory: Andre's becoming more melodic, stream-of-consciousness and lyrical while Big Boi is growing a more firm and confident Atlantan flex.
Even the way they describe the album's birthplace one can see the difference. "Stankonia is whatever's the funkiest shit ever," Big Boi told the Fader. "It could be that purple, or that funky-ass music." Compare it to Andre 3000's New Age, self-actualization explanation and once can see beginning of the fray.
The confidence in these new visions would eventually lead to the group splitting their efforts into Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, their next offering, essentially two solo efforts packaged as one. When they rejoined forces for 2006's Idlewild, the results were disappointing for those expecting that same uncontrollable chemistry.
Today, Big Boi is continuing the group's mission to channel the funk, while Andre 3000 has lost all inspiration to do anything music or Outkast-related. In a 2014 interview with Fader, he said he felt like a "sell-out" playing the hits they crafted on Stankonia during the group's recent reunion tour.
How one could feel like a sell-out screaming the "burn motherfucker, burn American dreams" of "Gasoline Dreams" to an audience of screaming fans is hard to imagine, but this is how the cracker crumbles. None of the group's present dysfunction changes how momentous it was when Outkast threw open the gates of Stankonia and welcomed the whole world to come and join. Hip-hop hasn't been the same since.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/outkast-the-funk-soul-brothers-237508/
They rule the radio, the album charts and now the Grammys. The world is theirs, but it almost didn’t happen
by
Mark Binelli
They were also in a studio in the Berkeley Park neighborhood of Atlanta, which Outkast had bought and named Stankonia shortly before beginning to record the album that would make the space legendary. More importantly, Stankonia was a place "where you can open yourself up and be free to express anything," Andre 3000 later said in an interview. It was here, careening between Atlanta and Atlantis, Outkast conceived an album that would change hip-hop forever.
The singles "Ms. Jackson" and "So Fresh, So Clean" are still irresistibly quotable. The deep cuts are still some of the most rewarding experimental hip-hop around. It was the album most hip-hop skeptics had to admit they liked. More than most other albums in the early '00s, Stankonia helped hip-hop build its foundation in the mainstream, where still it stands unfuckwithable today.
While proving how hook-y and marketable the genre could be, it gave the world a glimpse of how far the borders could expand. Spread across a tapestry of funk, psychedelic hard rock, gospel and jazz, Outkast's Stankonia proved hip-hop could outline spiritual conundrums just as effectively as it could describe the traps lining the edges of the ghetto. Music still feels the reverberations today.
Welcome to Stankonia. The album hit the shelves at a pivotal moment in Outkast's career. The duo were coming off a smash success with Aquemini, which had earned a perfect five-mic rating from the Source, the "bible of the genre," Creative Loafing notes. If Outkast wanted to surpass Aquemini with the next release, they knew they would need to reach beyond what hip-hop had attempted before.
"We're in the age of keeping it real, but we're trying to keep it surreal," Andre 3000 once said of the album's mission. He and Big Boi made a point of listening to no hip-hop while recording so as not to fall into any of the cliches they saw developing in the genre. Instead, they turned to Prince, George Clinton and Little Richard, but were careful not to go too deep. "I don't want this to be the generation that went back to '70s rock," Andre 3000 told Vibe. "You gotta take it and do new things with it."
The results are clear in "B.O.B," a searing fusion of Hendrix rock distortion and hyper-fast dancing breakbeats; "Humble Mumble," with its dreamy ballad piano lines floating over unrelenting syncopated snares and scratches; and the apocalyptic funk guitar work of "Gangsta Shit." Each beat is more experimental than the last, veering dangerously close to random at times, each another challenge to hip-hop to step its game up.
Finding that funk: The lyrics match the searching nature of the beats, with Andre 3000 and Big Boi's words narrating their quest for the funk. Said "funk," however, was a metaphor for so much more.
"I guess we're talking about an individual freedom," Andre 3000 told Fader. "Finding that gateway that opens you up, that frees you up mentally so you won't be stuck in a... a... I don't want to say a corporate mindstate, but more like a trained mindstate."
That search for freedom helped open up hip-hop for so many to follow. It gave those who worked on the album and in Atlanta's extended Dungeon Family scene an impeccable credential, helping launch the careers of Cee-Lo Green, Killer Mike and Future (cousin to Rico Wade, one of the producers in Organized Noise, responsible for three Stankonia tracks). Andre 3000 basically wrote the blueprint for the quirky genius in hip-hop, a model MCs like Young Thug to Kendrick Lamar are rewriting today.
"Outkast has opened up so many doors, for not just for myself, but artists of color," Janelle Monáe, one of today's torch-bearers of the alternative hip-hop, said in an interview with Complex. "They basically rewrote how hip hop could sound, what it could look like, how we could dress, things we could say, the live instrumentation in music."
Source: Mic/Getty Images
That freedom came with a bit of a price. The overwhelming creative energy the album barely managed to contain also likely sowed the seeds for the group's eventual dissolution. Listening to the album now, one can hear Andre 3000 and Big Boi's flows start to diverge into idiosyncratic territory: Andre's becoming more melodic, stream-of-consciousness and lyrical while Big Boi is growing a more firm and confident Atlantan flex.
Even the way they describe the album's birthplace one can see the difference. "Stankonia is whatever's the funkiest shit ever," Big Boi told the Fader. "It could be that purple, or that funky-ass music." Compare it to Andre 3000's New Age, self-actualization explanation and once can see beginning of the fray.
The confidence in these new visions would eventually lead to the group splitting their efforts into Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, their next offering, essentially two solo efforts packaged as one. When they rejoined forces for 2006's Idlewild, the results were disappointing for those expecting that same uncontrollable chemistry.
Today, Big Boi is continuing the group's mission to channel the funk, while Andre 3000 has lost all inspiration to do anything music or Outkast-related. In a 2014 interview with Fader, he said he felt like a "sell-out" playing the hits they crafted on Stankonia during the group's recent reunion tour.
How one could feel like a sell-out screaming the "burn motherfucker, burn American dreams" of "Gasoline Dreams" to an audience of screaming fans is hard to imagine, but this is how the cracker crumbles. None of the group's present dysfunction changes how momentous it was when Outkast threw open the gates of Stankonia and welcomed the whole world to come and join. Hip-hop hasn't been the same since.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/outkast-the-funk-soul-brothers-237508/
OutKast: The Funk Soul Brothers
They rule the radio, the album charts and now the Grammys. The world is theirs, but it almost didn’t happen
by
Mark Binelli
March 18, 2004
Rolling Stone
IF OUTKAST
WERE NOT A MULTIPLATINUM-SELLING HIP-HOP group, they would make a great
cop-buddy movie. Even before Big Boi and André 3000 released Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
— a double album that was, for all intents and purposes, two solo
albums — the pair were such a notorious odd couple, their partnership
could’ve been scripted. As anyone who has followed the duo’s career
knows by this point, OutKast’s core dynamic puts a teetotaling vegan
dandy (André 3000) in the same blunt-smoke-filled squad car as a playa
for life with a fondness for pit bulls, oversize bracelets and extremely
comfortable leisurewear (Big Boi).
He hasn’t. To complicate things further, the album has become the
biggest of their career — eight times platinum and counting, with
simultaneously released hit singles and, now, three Grammys, including
Album of the Year. André 3000’s “Hey Ya!,” which features no rapping at
all (like much of The Love Below), has become one of the rare
crossover singles that can be regularly heard on hip-hop, rock and Top
Forty radio. Most recently, they received the ultimate nod of
mass-cultural acceptance: They’ve been invited to appear on Oprah.
BOTH DRÉ AND BIG BOI DENY THAT they’re breaking up. Still, there’s a certain finality to the way Dré discusses the group’s future. “There’ll be two more OutKast albums,” he says, referring to their contractual obligation. “I’m willing to accept that no matter what I do next, it may not be as big as ‘Hey Ya!’ or OutKast. But it’s a growth thing. Paul McCartney and John Lennon never did anything as big as the Beatles. But they still did some cool shit on their own.”
Three days after the Grammys, Dré, 28, began shooting Be Cool, the sequel to Get Shorty, in which he and Cedric the Entertainer play members of a thuggish rap group called the WMDs, managed by John Travolta. “I get to dress stupid over-the-top,” Dré says with obvious delight. “Platinum jewelry, pants half-down my waist.” There was no name in the original script Dré’s lines were labeled “André” — so during rehearsals he offered a hundred bucks to whoever made up the “stupidest slumghetto name.” Cedric won with “Dabu.”
Dré is driving down Sunset Boulevard in his Toyota Land Cruiser. A saxophone workout by the Jazz Crusaders plays on the SUV’s stereo. We pull into a parking garage, and a guard smiles at Dré and waves us through. “You see that guy?” Dré asks. “Remember that song ‘Pass the Dutchie’? He did that song. He was in that group when he was a little kid.” Dré shakes his head. “He said they paid him $500.”
Though Dré is often portrayed as a shy eccentric, upstairs at Katana — a trendy Asian restaurant designed to look like a set from Blade Runner, only with more models he accepts a steady stream of well-wishers with ease and a near-constant grin. Jermaine Dupri stops by for an elbow bump, as do members of Tha Dogg Pound, a guy who says he directed Friday After Next and a young lady who says her girlfriend — “the white girl back there” — wants Dré’s number. Dré seems briefly nonplused by the request but gives her the number.
With the ubiquity of “Hey Ya!,” André 3000 has emerged as the more recognized half of OutKast. The song deserves the airplay, channeling a giddy, birth-of-rock-&-roll energy that comes as close to perfection as pop songs ever do. And any man willing to step out in a muumuu becomes especially conspicuous in the fairly conformist world of hip-hop. Tonight, Dré is wearing a Ralph Lauren Mackinaw over a checked blue oxford shirt and loose blue pants with yellow stars garnishing the leg seam. A tweed cap covers his hair (in cornrows for Be Cool), and his flashiest piece of jewelry is a vintage silver flower ring.
“Most of the clothes in the ‘Hey Ya!’ video I designed,” notes Dré as he reaches for some edamame. He’s starting his own clothing line, Benjamin André, which will concentrate, at first, on the all-important accessory. “You can have on some total bullshit,” he says, “but if you have cool socks, or a hat, or a pocket square, it’s like, ‘Oh, that shit’s fly.'”
How about when you guys started out?
Hip-hop is such a macho world. In the very beginning, I tried to make sure I fit in. We looked like regular cats. I had an Atlanta Braves jersey on in the first video. You had to look macho. It wasn’t until our second album, when I started producing, that I decided to make things more personal. I studied the way different artists looked. Prince, Sly Stone — they were dope for their time. And the jazz guys, too. They were on heroin, but they looked good. Then I went to Jamaica and decided to grow out my dreads. I wanted to keep them covered while I was growing them out, so I found this white Indian turban. It looked cool. Then I started wearing silk scarves, and it went from there. In hip-hop — well, in music, period — people don’t have that style anymore.
Did you expect to do as well as you guys did at the Grammys?
Honestly? I thought we’d win that many awards, but not in those categories. I thought “Hey Ya!” would get Record of the Year. When Coldplay won, I was like, “Oh, really?” I’m a White Stripes fan, and right now they’re considered the saviors of rock & roll, so I thought they would give Album of the Year to them.
Was it a fun night?
Norah Jones called me the night before and said, “Are you ready?” I said, “I guess I’m as ready as I’ll ever be.” It was stressful, because a lot of attention was on us. I don’t like that. The best moment was when we won Album of the Year and Big Boi gave me a hug. The embrace lasted five — eight, nine no, maybe fifteen seconds. The Love Below was originally supposed to be a solo album. At the last minute, management and the record company said it wasn’t a good time to do that, so Big Boi did Speakerboxxx. But I was taking so long to finish The Love Below that he wanted to release that as a solo album. A lot of people don’t know the album almost wasn’t made. So there were a lot of emotions in those seconds.
How about when you guys started out?
Hip-hop is such a macho world. In the very beginning, I tried to make sure I fit in. We looked like regular cats. I had an Atlanta Braves jersey on in the first video. You had to look macho. It wasn’t until our second album, when I started producing, that I decided to make things more personal. I studied the way different artists looked. Prince, Sly Stone — they were dope for their time. And the jazz guys, too. They were on heroin, but they looked good. Then I went to Jamaica and decided to grow out my dreads. I wanted to keep them covered while I was growing them out, so I found this white Indian turban. It looked cool. Then I started wearing silk scarves, and it went from there. In hip-hop — well, in music, period — people don’t have that style anymore.
Did you expect to do as well as you guys did at the Grammys?
Honestly? I thought we’d win that many awards, but not in those categories. I thought “Hey Ya!” would get Record of the Year. When Coldplay won, I was like, “Oh, really?” I’m a White Stripes fan, and right now they’re considered the saviors of rock & roll, so I thought they would give Album of the Year to them.
Was it a fun night?
Norah Jones called me the night before and said, “Are you ready?” I said, “I guess I’m as ready as I’ll ever be.” It was stressful, because a lot of attention was on us. I don’t like that. The best moment was when we won Album of the Year and Big Boi gave me a hug. The embrace lasted five — eight, nine no, maybe fifteen seconds. The Love Below was originally supposed to be a solo album. At the last minute, management and the record company said it wasn’t a good time to do that, so Big Boi did Speakerboxxx. But I was taking so long to finish The Love Below that he wanted to release that as a solo album. A lot of people don’t know the album almost wasn’t made. So there were a lot of emotions in those seconds.
Are you feeling burned out on music?
I wouldn’t say burned out. But definitely uninspired. But anything could come along any day. I’m starting a band. You know the guitar player from the ‘Hey Ya!’ video, Johnny Vulture?
Um, yeah. [In the video, Dré plays every member of the band, including Johnny Vulture.]
Johnny started a band called the Vultures. He and André 3000 hate each other, because André 3000 thinks Johnny took his sound.
What else do you have planned?
I want to go to Juilliard to study classical music.
Really? When?
I’ve been thinking about it for about a year. But things got kinda busy. This record took off. I can’t be in school right now. But I’m taking saxophone and clarinet lessons. I’d study classical composition and music theory. Like, now, I was working on songs for Gwen Stefani’s album, and I could tell her how to sing them but not the range.
BIG BOI AND DRÉ MET AT TRI-CITIES High, an arts magnet school in Atlanta, when they were still Antwon Patton and André Benjamin. The pair quickly bonded over music. Both had far-flung tastes — though, surprisingly, it was Dré who was most into Prince and Funkadelic, while Big Boi was obsessed with Kate Bush, whose early hit, “Wuthering Heights,” has a chorus that goes (really) “Heathcliiiiiff, it’s meeeee, it’s Cathy, I’ve come hooome….”
“My uncle turned me on to that,” Big Boi says. “Nobody else could understand it. But that shit’s moving to me. I’d sit and think and play her records for hours.”
One afternoon, after taking note of the extremely high wack-to-non-wack ratio of videos on Yo! MTV Raps, Dré and Big Boi decided to form their own group. One of Big Boi’s ex-girlfriends hooked them up with Rico Wade, part of the production trio Organized Noize, whose hits would eventually include TLC’s “Waterfalls.” Their “studio,” the Dungeon, was in the basement of an old house. “The basement wasn’t finished,” Big Boi says. “We have red clay in Georgia, so the beat machines had dust on ’em. There were old broke-up patio chairs. You had seven people sitting on steps with their notebooks out. Guys sleeping upstairs on a hardwood floor. It was some gritty shit. We’d walk up to this deli inside a gas station and order the spaghetti special, because it came with five meatballs, so we could split it.”
https://www.popmatters.com/195335-hiding-in-plain-sight-the-curious-legacy-of-outkast-2495508016.html
When Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
was released last fall, with Big Boi and André 3000 each more or less
sticking to their halves of the jewel box, it felt like a trial
separation that everyone knows is headed for divorce court. They did
(and still do) solo interviews to promote the album. André 3000 had left
Atlanta for L.A. to pursue an acting career and insisted he had no
plans on touring. Big Boi said that Dré always says he won’t tour, and
that he’d eventually come around.
BOTH DRÉ AND BIG BOI DENY THAT they’re breaking up. Still, there’s a certain finality to the way Dré discusses the group’s future. “There’ll be two more OutKast albums,” he says, referring to their contractual obligation. “I’m willing to accept that no matter what I do next, it may not be as big as ‘Hey Ya!’ or OutKast. But it’s a growth thing. Paul McCartney and John Lennon never did anything as big as the Beatles. But they still did some cool shit on their own.”
Three days after the Grammys, Dré, 28, began shooting Be Cool, the sequel to Get Shorty, in which he and Cedric the Entertainer play members of a thuggish rap group called the WMDs, managed by John Travolta. “I get to dress stupid over-the-top,” Dré says with obvious delight. “Platinum jewelry, pants half-down my waist.” There was no name in the original script Dré’s lines were labeled “André” — so during rehearsals he offered a hundred bucks to whoever made up the “stupidest slumghetto name.” Cedric won with “Dabu.”
Dré is driving down Sunset Boulevard in his Toyota Land Cruiser. A saxophone workout by the Jazz Crusaders plays on the SUV’s stereo. We pull into a parking garage, and a guard smiles at Dré and waves us through. “You see that guy?” Dré asks. “Remember that song ‘Pass the Dutchie’? He did that song. He was in that group when he was a little kid.” Dré shakes his head. “He said they paid him $500.”
Though Dré is often portrayed as a shy eccentric, upstairs at Katana — a trendy Asian restaurant designed to look like a set from Blade Runner, only with more models he accepts a steady stream of well-wishers with ease and a near-constant grin. Jermaine Dupri stops by for an elbow bump, as do members of Tha Dogg Pound, a guy who says he directed Friday After Next and a young lady who says her girlfriend — “the white girl back there” — wants Dré’s number. Dré seems briefly nonplused by the request but gives her the number.
With the ubiquity of “Hey Ya!,” André 3000 has emerged as the more recognized half of OutKast. The song deserves the airplay, channeling a giddy, birth-of-rock-&-roll energy that comes as close to perfection as pop songs ever do. And any man willing to step out in a muumuu becomes especially conspicuous in the fairly conformist world of hip-hop. Tonight, Dré is wearing a Ralph Lauren Mackinaw over a checked blue oxford shirt and loose blue pants with yellow stars garnishing the leg seam. A tweed cap covers his hair (in cornrows for Be Cool), and his flashiest piece of jewelry is a vintage silver flower ring.
“Most of the clothes in the ‘Hey Ya!’ video I designed,” notes Dré as he reaches for some edamame. He’s starting his own clothing line, Benjamin André, which will concentrate, at first, on the all-important accessory. “You can have on some total bullshit,” he says, “but if you have cool socks, or a hat, or a pocket square, it’s like, ‘Oh, that shit’s fly.'”
Hip-hop is such a macho world. In the very beginning, I tried to make sure I fit in. We looked like regular cats. I had an Atlanta Braves jersey on in the first video. You had to look macho. It wasn’t until our second album, when I started producing, that I decided to make things more personal. I studied the way different artists looked. Prince, Sly Stone — they were dope for their time. And the jazz guys, too. They were on heroin, but they looked good. Then I went to Jamaica and decided to grow out my dreads. I wanted to keep them covered while I was growing them out, so I found this white Indian turban. It looked cool. Then I started wearing silk scarves, and it went from there. In hip-hop — well, in music, period — people don’t have that style anymore.
Did you expect to do as well as you guys did at the Grammys?
Honestly? I thought we’d win that many awards, but not in those categories. I thought “Hey Ya!” would get Record of the Year. When Coldplay won, I was like, “Oh, really?” I’m a White Stripes fan, and right now they’re considered the saviors of rock & roll, so I thought they would give Album of the Year to them.
Was it a fun night?
Norah Jones called me the night before and said, “Are you ready?” I said, “I guess I’m as ready as I’ll ever be.” It was stressful, because a lot of attention was on us. I don’t like that. The best moment was when we won Album of the Year and Big Boi gave me a hug. The embrace lasted five — eight, nine no, maybe fifteen seconds. The Love Below was originally supposed to be a solo album. At the last minute, management and the record company said it wasn’t a good time to do that, so Big Boi did Speakerboxxx. But I was taking so long to finish The Love Below that he wanted to release that as a solo album. A lot of people don’t know the album almost wasn’t made. So there were a lot of emotions in those seconds.
How about when you guys started out?
Hip-hop is such a macho world. In the very beginning, I tried to make sure I fit in. We looked like regular cats. I had an Atlanta Braves jersey on in the first video. You had to look macho. It wasn’t until our second album, when I started producing, that I decided to make things more personal. I studied the way different artists looked. Prince, Sly Stone — they were dope for their time. And the jazz guys, too. They were on heroin, but they looked good. Then I went to Jamaica and decided to grow out my dreads. I wanted to keep them covered while I was growing them out, so I found this white Indian turban. It looked cool. Then I started wearing silk scarves, and it went from there. In hip-hop — well, in music, period — people don’t have that style anymore.
Did you expect to do as well as you guys did at the Grammys?
Honestly? I thought we’d win that many awards, but not in those categories. I thought “Hey Ya!” would get Record of the Year. When Coldplay won, I was like, “Oh, really?” I’m a White Stripes fan, and right now they’re considered the saviors of rock & roll, so I thought they would give Album of the Year to them.
Was it a fun night?
Norah Jones called me the night before and said, “Are you ready?” I said, “I guess I’m as ready as I’ll ever be.” It was stressful, because a lot of attention was on us. I don’t like that. The best moment was when we won Album of the Year and Big Boi gave me a hug. The embrace lasted five — eight, nine no, maybe fifteen seconds. The Love Below was originally supposed to be a solo album. At the last minute, management and the record company said it wasn’t a good time to do that, so Big Boi did Speakerboxxx. But I was taking so long to finish The Love Below that he wanted to release that as a solo album. A lot of people don’t know the album almost wasn’t made. So there were a lot of emotions in those seconds.
Are you feeling burned out on music?
I wouldn’t say burned out. But definitely uninspired. But anything could come along any day. I’m starting a band. You know the guitar player from the ‘Hey Ya!’ video, Johnny Vulture?
Um, yeah. [In the video, Dré plays every member of the band, including Johnny Vulture.]
Johnny started a band called the Vultures. He and André 3000 hate each other, because André 3000 thinks Johnny took his sound.
What else do you have planned?
I want to go to Juilliard to study classical music.
Really? When?
I’ve been thinking about it for about a year. But things got kinda busy. This record took off. I can’t be in school right now. But I’m taking saxophone and clarinet lessons. I’d study classical composition and music theory. Like, now, I was working on songs for Gwen Stefani’s album, and I could tell her how to sing them but not the range.
BIG BOI AND DRÉ MET AT TRI-CITIES High, an arts magnet school in Atlanta, when they were still Antwon Patton and André Benjamin. The pair quickly bonded over music. Both had far-flung tastes — though, surprisingly, it was Dré who was most into Prince and Funkadelic, while Big Boi was obsessed with Kate Bush, whose early hit, “Wuthering Heights,” has a chorus that goes (really) “Heathcliiiiiff, it’s meeeee, it’s Cathy, I’ve come hooome….”
“My uncle turned me on to that,” Big Boi says. “Nobody else could understand it. But that shit’s moving to me. I’d sit and think and play her records for hours.”
One afternoon, after taking note of the extremely high wack-to-non-wack ratio of videos on Yo! MTV Raps, Dré and Big Boi decided to form their own group. One of Big Boi’s ex-girlfriends hooked them up with Rico Wade, part of the production trio Organized Noize, whose hits would eventually include TLC’s “Waterfalls.” Their “studio,” the Dungeon, was in the basement of an old house. “The basement wasn’t finished,” Big Boi says. “We have red clay in Georgia, so the beat machines had dust on ’em. There were old broke-up patio chairs. You had seven people sitting on steps with their notebooks out. Guys sleeping upstairs on a hardwood floor. It was some gritty shit. We’d walk up to this deli inside a gas station and order the spaghetti special, because it came with five meatballs, so we could split it.”
https://www.popmatters.com/195335-hiding-in-plain-sight-the-curious-legacy-of-outkast-2495508016.html
Hiding in Plain Sight: The Curious Legacy of Outkast
PopMatters
Editor’s
Note: This article originally ran 27 July 2015. We are re-running some
of our best music features this week during SXSW.
A comedown was inevitable after an opener like “B.O.B.” But as Outkast settled into their set, I noticed something funny; during deeper cuts like “ATLiens” and “Hootie Hoo”, the younger pockets of the crowd would begin shuffling and checking their phones, the hallmarks of people who aren’t totally feeling it. This continued throughout Outkast’s eclectic set -- energy constantly shifted like tides, as different pockets of the crowd perked up or simmered down depending on the flavor, tempo, and age of the song being played.
As I danced hard enough to make my fellow concertgoers nervous and uncomfortable, I wondered how Outkast was doing this. How had they brought teenage white girls and middle-aged black men to the same place, for a shared purpose? How could they provoke such wildly varying reactions within a single crowd? And what did this say about the legacy and future of Outkast?
* * *
Hip-hop today is borderless. New York rappers crib from Houston. Jamaican dancehall has wormed its way into chart-topping hits. There’s a guy in Calcutta remixing a Gucci Mane song right now. At the center of these swirling trade winds sits Atlanta, which has come to define the mainstream (Mike WiLL Made It, TI, Lil Jon), and the vanguard (iLoveMakonnen, Young Thug, Migos).
Back in 1995, however, hip-hop was a closed system guarded by the East and West Coast, and a battle raged over which side truly represented the culture. For the gatekeepers on the coasts, Southern rap didn’t even belong in the conversation; they considered it booty music made by backwoods posers. So, when two drawling 19-year-olds from Atlanta won Best New Rap Group at the Source Awards in 1995, the New York crowd positively revolted, throwing heckles and curses at the group.
Those two Southern boys were Antwan “Big Boi” Patton and Andre “3000” Benjamin, and with their platinum-selling debut Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, Outkast were the first Southern group to break the coastal stranglehold on hip-hop. Like the Beatles sparking the British Invasion, Outkast put Atlanta on the map and cracked the door for every Southern rapper that would follow. That debut is one of many reasons why Outkast is probably the most important hip-hop group since NWA.
They were just getting started. Over their next five albums, Outkast continuously pushed themselves into foreign territory, revolutionizing what mainstream hip-hop could sound like with each succeeding album. The divide between gangsta and conscious rap was a false choice; every perspective and subject matter was worthwhile to Outkast. On Aquemini alone, they talk about child rearing, drug dealing, racial politics, technophobia, gypsies, aliens, and the apocalypse. They could be jokesters, realists, gangstas, and family men all at once.
That eclecticism extended to the music. Outkast used live instrumentation to fuse hip-hop with funk, gospel, rock, rave, ragtime, and anything else they could get their hands on. They were instrumental in expanding hip-hop’s palette, and at their best, on songs like “SpottieOttieDopalicious” and “B.O.B.”, they blew apart the very idea of distinct genres.
And with 2003’s double album Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, Outkast helped usher hip-hop into the mainstream. Speakerboxxx/The Love Below was the first (and last) hip-hop album to permeate seemingly every corner of American culture, sitting high on critics’ year-end lists, winning over the establishment with a Grammy for Album of the year, and selling over 11 million units. To this day it stands as the best-selling hip-hop album of all time.
Perhaps most importantly, Outkast popularized slang words we now take for grantedlike crunk and skeet. Life in the 21st century would be an unbearable grind without the majesty of skeet.
Groups like Run-DMC and NWA may have laid the foundation for today’s hip-hop, but no group covered more ground or had a wider influence than Outkast. Their influence can be heard in Kendrick Lamar’s thematic scope, Big KRIT’s defiant southernness, Lil Wayne’s cosmic weirdness, and Drake’s earnest crooning. From the granular issues of what it can sound like and be about, to the global issues of where it can be made and who it can sell to, Outkast courses through the veins of hip-hop in America.
* * *
And yet, I can’t shake the feeling that Outkast’s star has begun to fade.
Sure, critics still fawn over the group, but since when have critics reflected the tastes of the common man? In the eyes of many, Outkast have gradually been reduced to their singles—ironically, a group with one of the deepest catalogs in music has become Those Guys That Did “Hey Ya!”. If Spotify and YouTube plays are any indication, young people listening to early-'00s rap now prefer Dr. Dre, Eminem, and 50 Cent to Outkast. And besides constant shout-outs from Big KRIT, the hip-hop community doesn’t speak of Outkast in the [hushed tones used for other all-time greats. List makers usually, and I’d say unfairly, put them below groups like Run-DMC, Public Enemy, and NWA. Put simply, Antwan and Andre are legends hiding in plain sight.
So why hasn’t Outkast been carved into the face of hip-hop's Mount Rushmore?
Part of the problem is that, unlike so many others, they can’t be defined by one watershed moment. Public Enemy and NWA got caught in a crucible of racial unrest. The Wu-Tang Clan’s debut felt like a punch to the face. Biggie and 2Pac were martyrs taken too soon. Vanilla Ice set white rappers back ten years.
Outkast’s accomplishments, however, were less tangible. Their constant reinvention didn’t make for easy narratives, and they avoided attention-grabbing beefs and polemics, preferring to expand frontiers rather than vanquish enemies. Everyone remembers who kicked down the front door. No one remembers who opened the windows.
If anything, “Hey Ya!” was their Big Moment. But the song was an anomaly, totally disconnected from the sound and history of the group. It cleaved their fanbase in two -- the hip-hop fans surprised by Outkast’s move into bar mitzvah music, and the new fans uninterested in the group’s earlier work. Yes, everyone liked Outkast, but with different fans embracing different parts of their catalog, a common legacy couldn’t crystallize.
This gets to the deeper issue of how artistic legacies form.. Musicians endure either by embodying a bygone era or inspiring modern imitations. Despite their accomplishments, Outkast evolved so frequently and hung around so long that they don’t feel emblematic of one time or style—not in the same way that artists like 2Pac or Run-DMC evoke very specific moments in hip-hop. In some ways, Outkast was undone by their own longevity and eclecticism.
Although they’ve influenced dozens of artists at a thematic and historic level, direct imitations of Outkast have been rare. Even songs that extensively sample the group, like J. Cole’s “Land of the Snakes” or Big K.R.I.T.’s “R4 Theme Song”, don’t really try to match Outkast’s ambitions. Not that following the ATLiens is easy. How would you even go about imitating the elusive, contradictory point of space that Outkast occupied? Is it any surprise that music today doesn’t sound like the bluegrass rap of “Rosa Parks”, the Bridal Chorus-sampling ode to baby mama’s mamas of “Ms. Jackson”, or the genre-collage insanity of “B.O.B.”? Songs like these blend wildly different eras, perspectives, and genres to make something singular. They can’t be nailed down to a tangible time or place--they sound like they were made in the year 3000, in Stankonia. For better or worse, Outkast’s music just sounds like... Outkast.
* * *
Because of these issues, Outkast’s legacy has become a strange kind of divergent, nebulous popularity, and that legacy has helped to drive Big Boi and Andre further apart.
After Outkast split, Andre seemed to be cutting a new path for himself musically, dropping a string of outstanding guest verses in 2007 and giving fans hope for a solo release. But the guest verses eventually slowed to a trickle as Andre fished for inspiration in clothing design, Cartoon Network shows, acting, Gillette commercials—pretty much everything but rap.
There are probably a lot of reasons for Andre’s slowdown—a depletion of ideas, waning interest in hip-hop, old age in rap years—but Outkast’s legacy has also been a factor. Every time Andre releases a verse, the Internet content mill goes into overdrive, endlessly comparing the verse to his Outkast peak and speculating when the group’s next album may come out. For a man who’s always been leery of the limelight, that degree of attention must surely be paralyzing. It has also served as a constant reminder that anything he releases could besmirch Outkast’s spotless record. As any artist will tell you, high expectations and a fear of failure can strangle creativity..
And so, today, the prospect of an Andre solo album seems less likely with each passing year. His increasingly ambivalent interviews, the “SOLD OUT” tag he wore during the reunion shows --these are not the signs of someone raring to return to the studio. They’re the street signs at an artistic crossroads. Hell, after eight years of waffling, things are looking more like an artistic roundabout. It’s frustrating for fans, but Andre has never followed the beaten path. All we can do now is wait for him to make a turn.
***
Big Boi has often been given short shrift as the less-talented member of the group—the Art Garfunkel to Andre’s Paul Simon. The truth is that Big Boi was just as important as Andre. His focus, ear for hooks, and experimental-but-restrained production style allowed Outkast to blast into space without drifting out of orbit. Unfortunately for Big Boi, discipline doesn’t attract the spotlight.
The end of Outkast, then, was a new beginning for Big Boi, a chance to step out of Andre’s shadow and into the spotlight. With his 2010 solo debut Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, he made the most of that chance, crafting an album full of bouncy, layered beats, infectious hooks, and innovative ideas. The album sounds like a smoke session in a candy-colored strip club, and that’s all because of Big’s quicksilver flow and steady hand in the studio.
But things had changed since Outkast’s last work. Southern rap had drifted from funk and soul towards trap and EDM. Dwindling sales had made record labels risk-averse. In that climate, and without Andre’s flamboyant commercial appeal by his side, Big Boi’s experimental funk simply wasn’t a sure bet for Jive Records. So, just a few years after ruling the world as half of Outkast, Big Boi found himself shunted to the side by Jive, who blocked the album’s release for two years and eventually allowed him to quietly release it through Def Jam.
The result: despite universal acclaim, a tracklist full of bangers, and a hilarious album title, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty only sold 175,000 copies in 2010. To put that in perspective, the album placed #183 on 2010’s Billboard Top 200, selling fewer copies than timeless classics like Kidz Bop 17 and the Crazy Heart soundtrack. His next effort, the more experimental and confessional Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors, sold even fewer copies despite critical acclaim.
In today’s musical landscape, Antwan Patton has become a man without a country -- too unconventional to fit into the Southern hip-hop scene he helped establish, still overlooked compared to Andre, and unable to match Outkast’s commercial success by himself. But Big Boi seems content to soldier on, with or without Andre. Forever pimpin’, never slippin’ -- Big’s been doing it for the last 20 years.
* * *
After more than two decades in music, Outkast has become a host of contradictions. They’re incredibly influential, but their influence was too abstract and their work was too unique to leave visible fingerprints on contemporary music. Their versatility and longevity won them a huge fanbase, but that versatility made it difficult for a legacy to crystalize. It’s all come together to make Outkast is easy to like but hard to agree upon.
Because of this legacy, each has gotten what the other worked for: Big Boi, ever the crowd pleaser, keeps working while being unjustly ignored by casual fans. And Andre, who’s done his best to avoid mainstream tastes and attention, now finds himself frozen in the spotlight. As they’ve moved in opposite directions, the legacy of Outkast has become both a gift and a curse for Andre and Big Boi -- something they can fall back on but never quite live up to.
In many ways, 2014’s reunion tour felt like the meeting point of all these contradictions: a homecoming on stage despite enduring discord in the studio; a reminder of their relevancy and a hint of their waning connection to the present; a reunion, and ultimately, a swan song. Because as much as Big and Dre claim that the spirit of Outkast never dies, and that a new album may come someday, I can’t shake the feeling that this was the end.
Part of me sees the beauty in Outkast staying gone. By stopping when they did, Big and Dre got the rare chance to end their story on their own terms. They’re rightfully protective of that closure.
But I miss them all the same. I miss their thoughtful joy, their hopeful melancholy, their compassionate anger, their poetic pimping. Part of me wishes the story could go on.
* * *
Andre and Big Boi capped their Governor’s Ball set with “The Whole World”, a weird song any way you slice it. It’s a rap-waltz with a 6/8 time signature, a sing-along chorus, a fiery Killer Mike verse, and a venomous attack on the voyeurism of fandom. That contradiction -- biting cynicism under a sheen of joy -- made “The Whole World” an especially odd choice as a closer for a reunion concert.
Up on stage, Big Boi basked in the energy for one last moment, grinning like the Cheshire Cat. Then, two stagehands carried a large costume trunk on stage with business-like efficiency. They opened the trunk, and without a word or a moment’s hesitation, Andre climbed inside, folded his arms, and froze still, his face completely blank. The stage crew continued to work as if this was all completely ordinary.
But this gesture felt like something out of The Twilight Zoneas if Andre 3000 was a puppet that had magically become animate for one performance, and now his puppet-master-roadies were casually returning him to his box. It was the most surreal thing I’ve ever seen. I had slipped into a dimension where metaphors became reality, where the personas of Andre 3000 and Big Boi were puppets perennially trapped in suspended animation, being made to play-act as a happy, united group.
It felt like a hallucination, and with all the loose substances and vapors wafting around the festival, it very well might have been. No one in the crowd seemed to notice this carnival of absurdity. I haven’t seen any press coverage about it. But it’s the one memory from the concert that remains clear in my head.
As the crowd shuffled off into the hot, suddenly quiet night, the stagehands closed Andre’s trunk and carried him off stage. I stood on my toes and craned my neck to catch one last glimpse, the music still ringing in my ears.
But Outkast was gone.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
OUTKAST
(Left to Right: Big Boi and Andre 3000)
When it comes to hip-hop, everyone remembers who kicked down the front door -- but no one remembers who opened the windows
It was pandemonium on the grassy field, a sea of thousands writhing and thrashing as if the world was coming to an end. It was Governor’s Ball 2014, and Outkast had just kicked off their 20th-anniversary show with “B.O.B.”, a blistering drumn’n’bass-gospel-rave-rap attack unlike anything that’s come before or since. The track should come with an advisory warning: May Cause Listeners to Lose Their Heads and Shed Two Gallons of Sweat.A comedown was inevitable after an opener like “B.O.B.” But as Outkast settled into their set, I noticed something funny; during deeper cuts like “ATLiens” and “Hootie Hoo”, the younger pockets of the crowd would begin shuffling and checking their phones, the hallmarks of people who aren’t totally feeling it. This continued throughout Outkast’s eclectic set -- energy constantly shifted like tides, as different pockets of the crowd perked up or simmered down depending on the flavor, tempo, and age of the song being played.
As I danced hard enough to make my fellow concertgoers nervous and uncomfortable, I wondered how Outkast was doing this. How had they brought teenage white girls and middle-aged black men to the same place, for a shared purpose? How could they provoke such wildly varying reactions within a single crowd? And what did this say about the legacy and future of Outkast?
* * *
Hip-hop today is borderless. New York rappers crib from Houston. Jamaican dancehall has wormed its way into chart-topping hits. There’s a guy in Calcutta remixing a Gucci Mane song right now. At the center of these swirling trade winds sits Atlanta, which has come to define the mainstream (Mike WiLL Made It, TI, Lil Jon), and the vanguard (iLoveMakonnen, Young Thug, Migos).
Back in 1995, however, hip-hop was a closed system guarded by the East and West Coast, and a battle raged over which side truly represented the culture. For the gatekeepers on the coasts, Southern rap didn’t even belong in the conversation; they considered it booty music made by backwoods posers. So, when two drawling 19-year-olds from Atlanta won Best New Rap Group at the Source Awards in 1995, the New York crowd positively revolted, throwing heckles and curses at the group.
Those two Southern boys were Antwan “Big Boi” Patton and Andre “3000” Benjamin, and with their platinum-selling debut Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik, Outkast were the first Southern group to break the coastal stranglehold on hip-hop. Like the Beatles sparking the British Invasion, Outkast put Atlanta on the map and cracked the door for every Southern rapper that would follow. That debut is one of many reasons why Outkast is probably the most important hip-hop group since NWA.
They were just getting started. Over their next five albums, Outkast continuously pushed themselves into foreign territory, revolutionizing what mainstream hip-hop could sound like with each succeeding album. The divide between gangsta and conscious rap was a false choice; every perspective and subject matter was worthwhile to Outkast. On Aquemini alone, they talk about child rearing, drug dealing, racial politics, technophobia, gypsies, aliens, and the apocalypse. They could be jokesters, realists, gangstas, and family men all at once.
That eclecticism extended to the music. Outkast used live instrumentation to fuse hip-hop with funk, gospel, rock, rave, ragtime, and anything else they could get their hands on. They were instrumental in expanding hip-hop’s palette, and at their best, on songs like “SpottieOttieDopalicious” and “B.O.B.”, they blew apart the very idea of distinct genres.
And with 2003’s double album Speakerboxxx/The Love Below, Outkast helped usher hip-hop into the mainstream. Speakerboxxx/The Love Below was the first (and last) hip-hop album to permeate seemingly every corner of American culture, sitting high on critics’ year-end lists, winning over the establishment with a Grammy for Album of the year, and selling over 11 million units. To this day it stands as the best-selling hip-hop album of all time.
Perhaps most importantly, Outkast popularized slang words we now take for grantedlike crunk and skeet. Life in the 21st century would be an unbearable grind without the majesty of skeet.
Groups like Run-DMC and NWA may have laid the foundation for today’s hip-hop, but no group covered more ground or had a wider influence than Outkast. Their influence can be heard in Kendrick Lamar’s thematic scope, Big KRIT’s defiant southernness, Lil Wayne’s cosmic weirdness, and Drake’s earnest crooning. From the granular issues of what it can sound like and be about, to the global issues of where it can be made and who it can sell to, Outkast courses through the veins of hip-hop in America.
* * *
And yet, I can’t shake the feeling that Outkast’s star has begun to fade.
Sure, critics still fawn over the group, but since when have critics reflected the tastes of the common man? In the eyes of many, Outkast have gradually been reduced to their singles—ironically, a group with one of the deepest catalogs in music has become Those Guys That Did “Hey Ya!”. If Spotify and YouTube plays are any indication, young people listening to early-'00s rap now prefer Dr. Dre, Eminem, and 50 Cent to Outkast. And besides constant shout-outs from Big KRIT, the hip-hop community doesn’t speak of Outkast in the [hushed tones used for other all-time greats. List makers usually, and I’d say unfairly, put them below groups like Run-DMC, Public Enemy, and NWA. Put simply, Antwan and Andre are legends hiding in plain sight.
So why hasn’t Outkast been carved into the face of hip-hop's Mount Rushmore?
Part of the problem is that, unlike so many others, they can’t be defined by one watershed moment. Public Enemy and NWA got caught in a crucible of racial unrest. The Wu-Tang Clan’s debut felt like a punch to the face. Biggie and 2Pac were martyrs taken too soon. Vanilla Ice set white rappers back ten years.
Outkast’s accomplishments, however, were less tangible. Their constant reinvention didn’t make for easy narratives, and they avoided attention-grabbing beefs and polemics, preferring to expand frontiers rather than vanquish enemies. Everyone remembers who kicked down the front door. No one remembers who opened the windows.
If anything, “Hey Ya!” was their Big Moment. But the song was an anomaly, totally disconnected from the sound and history of the group. It cleaved their fanbase in two -- the hip-hop fans surprised by Outkast’s move into bar mitzvah music, and the new fans uninterested in the group’s earlier work. Yes, everyone liked Outkast, but with different fans embracing different parts of their catalog, a common legacy couldn’t crystallize.
This gets to the deeper issue of how artistic legacies form.. Musicians endure either by embodying a bygone era or inspiring modern imitations. Despite their accomplishments, Outkast evolved so frequently and hung around so long that they don’t feel emblematic of one time or style—not in the same way that artists like 2Pac or Run-DMC evoke very specific moments in hip-hop. In some ways, Outkast was undone by their own longevity and eclecticism.
Although they’ve influenced dozens of artists at a thematic and historic level, direct imitations of Outkast have been rare. Even songs that extensively sample the group, like J. Cole’s “Land of the Snakes” or Big K.R.I.T.’s “R4 Theme Song”, don’t really try to match Outkast’s ambitions. Not that following the ATLiens is easy. How would you even go about imitating the elusive, contradictory point of space that Outkast occupied? Is it any surprise that music today doesn’t sound like the bluegrass rap of “Rosa Parks”, the Bridal Chorus-sampling ode to baby mama’s mamas of “Ms. Jackson”, or the genre-collage insanity of “B.O.B.”? Songs like these blend wildly different eras, perspectives, and genres to make something singular. They can’t be nailed down to a tangible time or place--they sound like they were made in the year 3000, in Stankonia. For better or worse, Outkast’s music just sounds like... Outkast.
* * *
Because of these issues, Outkast’s legacy has become a strange kind of divergent, nebulous popularity, and that legacy has helped to drive Big Boi and Andre further apart.
After Outkast split, Andre seemed to be cutting a new path for himself musically, dropping a string of outstanding guest verses in 2007 and giving fans hope for a solo release. But the guest verses eventually slowed to a trickle as Andre fished for inspiration in clothing design, Cartoon Network shows, acting, Gillette commercials—pretty much everything but rap.
There are probably a lot of reasons for Andre’s slowdown—a depletion of ideas, waning interest in hip-hop, old age in rap years—but Outkast’s legacy has also been a factor. Every time Andre releases a verse, the Internet content mill goes into overdrive, endlessly comparing the verse to his Outkast peak and speculating when the group’s next album may come out. For a man who’s always been leery of the limelight, that degree of attention must surely be paralyzing. It has also served as a constant reminder that anything he releases could besmirch Outkast’s spotless record. As any artist will tell you, high expectations and a fear of failure can strangle creativity..
And so, today, the prospect of an Andre solo album seems less likely with each passing year. His increasingly ambivalent interviews, the “SOLD OUT” tag he wore during the reunion shows --these are not the signs of someone raring to return to the studio. They’re the street signs at an artistic crossroads. Hell, after eight years of waffling, things are looking more like an artistic roundabout. It’s frustrating for fans, but Andre has never followed the beaten path. All we can do now is wait for him to make a turn.
***
Big Boi has often been given short shrift as the less-talented member of the group—the Art Garfunkel to Andre’s Paul Simon. The truth is that Big Boi was just as important as Andre. His focus, ear for hooks, and experimental-but-restrained production style allowed Outkast to blast into space without drifting out of orbit. Unfortunately for Big Boi, discipline doesn’t attract the spotlight.
The end of Outkast, then, was a new beginning for Big Boi, a chance to step out of Andre’s shadow and into the spotlight. With his 2010 solo debut Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, he made the most of that chance, crafting an album full of bouncy, layered beats, infectious hooks, and innovative ideas. The album sounds like a smoke session in a candy-colored strip club, and that’s all because of Big’s quicksilver flow and steady hand in the studio.
But things had changed since Outkast’s last work. Southern rap had drifted from funk and soul towards trap and EDM. Dwindling sales had made record labels risk-averse. In that climate, and without Andre’s flamboyant commercial appeal by his side, Big Boi’s experimental funk simply wasn’t a sure bet for Jive Records. So, just a few years after ruling the world as half of Outkast, Big Boi found himself shunted to the side by Jive, who blocked the album’s release for two years and eventually allowed him to quietly release it through Def Jam.
The result: despite universal acclaim, a tracklist full of bangers, and a hilarious album title, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty only sold 175,000 copies in 2010. To put that in perspective, the album placed #183 on 2010’s Billboard Top 200, selling fewer copies than timeless classics like Kidz Bop 17 and the Crazy Heart soundtrack. His next effort, the more experimental and confessional Vicious Lies and Dangerous Rumors, sold even fewer copies despite critical acclaim.
In today’s musical landscape, Antwan Patton has become a man without a country -- too unconventional to fit into the Southern hip-hop scene he helped establish, still overlooked compared to Andre, and unable to match Outkast’s commercial success by himself. But Big Boi seems content to soldier on, with or without Andre. Forever pimpin’, never slippin’ -- Big’s been doing it for the last 20 years.
* * *
After more than two decades in music, Outkast has become a host of contradictions. They’re incredibly influential, but their influence was too abstract and their work was too unique to leave visible fingerprints on contemporary music. Their versatility and longevity won them a huge fanbase, but that versatility made it difficult for a legacy to crystalize. It’s all come together to make Outkast is easy to like but hard to agree upon.
Because of this legacy, each has gotten what the other worked for: Big Boi, ever the crowd pleaser, keeps working while being unjustly ignored by casual fans. And Andre, who’s done his best to avoid mainstream tastes and attention, now finds himself frozen in the spotlight. As they’ve moved in opposite directions, the legacy of Outkast has become both a gift and a curse for Andre and Big Boi -- something they can fall back on but never quite live up to.
In many ways, 2014’s reunion tour felt like the meeting point of all these contradictions: a homecoming on stage despite enduring discord in the studio; a reminder of their relevancy and a hint of their waning connection to the present; a reunion, and ultimately, a swan song. Because as much as Big and Dre claim that the spirit of Outkast never dies, and that a new album may come someday, I can’t shake the feeling that this was the end.
Part of me sees the beauty in Outkast staying gone. By stopping when they did, Big and Dre got the rare chance to end their story on their own terms. They’re rightfully protective of that closure.
But I miss them all the same. I miss their thoughtful joy, their hopeful melancholy, their compassionate anger, their poetic pimping. Part of me wishes the story could go on.
* * *
Andre and Big Boi capped their Governor’s Ball set with “The Whole World”, a weird song any way you slice it. It’s a rap-waltz with a 6/8 time signature, a sing-along chorus, a fiery Killer Mike verse, and a venomous attack on the voyeurism of fandom. That contradiction -- biting cynicism under a sheen of joy -- made “The Whole World” an especially odd choice as a closer for a reunion concert.
Up on stage, Big Boi basked in the energy for one last moment, grinning like the Cheshire Cat. Then, two stagehands carried a large costume trunk on stage with business-like efficiency. They opened the trunk, and without a word or a moment’s hesitation, Andre climbed inside, folded his arms, and froze still, his face completely blank. The stage crew continued to work as if this was all completely ordinary.
But this gesture felt like something out of The Twilight Zoneas if Andre 3000 was a puppet that had magically become animate for one performance, and now his puppet-master-roadies were casually returning him to his box. It was the most surreal thing I’ve ever seen. I had slipped into a dimension where metaphors became reality, where the personas of Andre 3000 and Big Boi were puppets perennially trapped in suspended animation, being made to play-act as a happy, united group.
It felt like a hallucination, and with all the loose substances and vapors wafting around the festival, it very well might have been. No one in the crowd seemed to notice this carnival of absurdity. I haven’t seen any press coverage about it. But it’s the one memory from the concert that remains clear in my head.
As the crowd shuffled off into the hot, suddenly quiet night, the stagehands closed Andre’s trunk and carried him off stage. I stood on my toes and craned my neck to catch one last glimpse, the music still ringing in my ears.
But Outkast was gone.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
Outkast - ATliens [Full Album]
'