SOUND PROJECTIONS
AN ONLINE QUARTERLY MUSIC MAGAZINE
EDITOR: KOFI NATAMBU
WINTER, 2019
VOLUME SIX NUMBER THREE
ANTHONY BRAXTON
Featuring the Musics and Aesthetic Visions of:
ISAAC HAYES
(December 29—January 4)
THOM BELL
(January 5-11)
THE O'JAYS
(January 12-18)
BOOKER T. JONES
(January 26-February 1)
THE STYLISTICS
OTIS REDDING
(January 19-25)
BOOKER T. JONES
(January 26-February 1)
THE STYLISTICS
(February 2-8)
THE STAPLE SINGERS
(February 9-15)
OTIS RUSH
(February 16-22)
ERROLL GARNER
(February 23-March 1)
EARL HINES
(March 2-8)
BO DIDDLEY
(March 9–15)
BIG BILL BROONZY
(March 16–22)https://www.allmusic.com/artist/booker-t-jones-mn0000772976/biography
Booer T. Jones
(b. November 12, 1944)
Artist Biography by Mark Deming
Booker T. Jones was one of the architects of the Memphis soul sound of the 1960s as the leader of Booker T. & the MG's, who scored a number of hits on their own as well as serving as the Stax Records house band. But Jones'
accomplishments don't stop there, and as a producer, songwriter,
arranger, and instrumentalist, he's worked with a remarkable variety of
artists, from Willie Nelson to John Lee Hooker, from Soul Asylum to the Roots.
Booker T. Jones was born in Memphis, Tennessee on November 12, 1944. Jones developed an keen interest in music as a boy; while working a paper route, he used to pass by the house of jazz pianist Phineas Newborn, and would often stop and listen to him practice as he folded newspapers. By the time Jones was in high school, he helped to direct the school band and was proficient on saxophone, trombone, oboe, and keyboards; he also played organ during services at his church, and would occasionally sneak out and sit in with R&B combos at local nightclubs. In 1960, Jones, a frequent customer at Memphis' Satellite Record Shop, was recruited to play sax on a Rufus and Carla Thomas recording session when the proprietors of the store, Estelle Axton and Jim Stewart, decided to start their own record label. The label soon evolved into Stax Records, and Jones, along with guitarist Steve Cropper (who was managing the record store when he met Jones), bassist Lewis Steinberg (later replaced by Donald "Duck" Dunn), and drummer Al Jackson Jr., would form the MG's, who would back up Stax artists Otis Redding, Sam & Dave, Eddie Floyd, Albert King, and many others, as well as releasing a steady stream of instrumental recordings on their own, including the smash hit "Green Onions." Jones' productivity in the early to mid-'60s is all the more remarkable as he was also a full-time student at Indiana University, where he studied composition and music theory while doing shows and recording sessions during weekends and vacations.
Booker T. & the MG's enjoyed considerable success in their heyday -- cutting hits, backing Stax's leading artists, touring Europe and the U.K. with the Stax/Volt Revue, and accompanying Otis Redding for his legendary set at the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival -- but between internal disputes at Stax (mostly regarding the spoils of their successful distribution deal with Atlantic Records) and the increasingly busy schedules of the various members, the group was on the verge of breaking up, and in 1970, Jones relocated to Los Angeles. He had already been branching out, appearing on Delaney & Bonnie's 1969 album Home and Mitch Ryder's ambitious The Detroit-Memphis Experiment, and after 1971's Melting Pot, the MG's quietly broke up. Jones stayed busy with session work, playing on albums by Bob Dylan, Steven Stills, Kris Kristofferson, and Rita Coolidge, and in 1971 he released Booker T. & Priscilla, the first of two albums he would record with his then-wife, Priscilla Coolidge-Jones (the sister of Rita Coolidge). The same year, Jones produced Just as I Am, the outstanding debut album by Bill Withers, which featured the hits "Ain't No Sunshine" and "Grandma's Hands." In 1975, Jones and the MG's were working on a reunion album when Al Jackson, Jr. was murdered; the group continued to record with drummer Willie Hall, but they parted ways again in 1977. In 1978, Jones released his first solo album, Try and Love Again, and enjoyed one of his biggest successes as a producer with Willie Nelson's Stardust, a collection of pop standards that established Nelson as one of country's biggest crossover acts.
Session work and production assignments with Nelson dominated Jones' schedule in the '80s, though he released a second solo album, I Want You, in 1981; another followed late in the decade, 1989's The Runaway. In 1992, Booker T. & the MG's were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and that same year, the group reunited for a special, high-profile gig: they served as the house band for an all-star tribute to Bob Dylan staged in honor of the songwriter's 30th year as a recording artist. Neil Young, one of the artists who appeared at the concert, was impressed enough with the MG's that he invited them to serve as his backing band for a major concert tour in 1993. The tour sparked new interest in the band, and in 1994, Jones and the MG's cut a new album, That's the Way It Should Be, and they supported it with a number of live dates. Jones soon returned to a steady schedule of session work, and he produced as well as performed on Neil Young's 2002 album Are You Passionate? But in 2008, Jones stepped up for one of his most ambitious solo efforts to date, Potato Hole, in which he was backed up by country-influenced hard rockers the Drive-By Truckers, with Neil Young adding additional guitar on several tunes. The album earned enthusiastic reviews, and Jones supported the release with a number of live dates in America, Europe, and the U.K. In 2011, Jones returned with another inspired collaboration, The Road from Memphis, in which he teamed up in the studio with Philadelphia-based hip-hop/modern soul collective the Roots. Jones returned to Stax Records, now under the Concord Records umbrella, for 2013's guest-laden Sound the Alarm.
Booker T. Jones was born in Memphis, Tennessee on November 12, 1944. Jones developed an keen interest in music as a boy; while working a paper route, he used to pass by the house of jazz pianist Phineas Newborn, and would often stop and listen to him practice as he folded newspapers. By the time Jones was in high school, he helped to direct the school band and was proficient on saxophone, trombone, oboe, and keyboards; he also played organ during services at his church, and would occasionally sneak out and sit in with R&B combos at local nightclubs. In 1960, Jones, a frequent customer at Memphis' Satellite Record Shop, was recruited to play sax on a Rufus and Carla Thomas recording session when the proprietors of the store, Estelle Axton and Jim Stewart, decided to start their own record label. The label soon evolved into Stax Records, and Jones, along with guitarist Steve Cropper (who was managing the record store when he met Jones), bassist Lewis Steinberg (later replaced by Donald "Duck" Dunn), and drummer Al Jackson Jr., would form the MG's, who would back up Stax artists Otis Redding, Sam & Dave, Eddie Floyd, Albert King, and many others, as well as releasing a steady stream of instrumental recordings on their own, including the smash hit "Green Onions." Jones' productivity in the early to mid-'60s is all the more remarkable as he was also a full-time student at Indiana University, where he studied composition and music theory while doing shows and recording sessions during weekends and vacations.
Booker T. & the MG's enjoyed considerable success in their heyday -- cutting hits, backing Stax's leading artists, touring Europe and the U.K. with the Stax/Volt Revue, and accompanying Otis Redding for his legendary set at the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival -- but between internal disputes at Stax (mostly regarding the spoils of their successful distribution deal with Atlantic Records) and the increasingly busy schedules of the various members, the group was on the verge of breaking up, and in 1970, Jones relocated to Los Angeles. He had already been branching out, appearing on Delaney & Bonnie's 1969 album Home and Mitch Ryder's ambitious The Detroit-Memphis Experiment, and after 1971's Melting Pot, the MG's quietly broke up. Jones stayed busy with session work, playing on albums by Bob Dylan, Steven Stills, Kris Kristofferson, and Rita Coolidge, and in 1971 he released Booker T. & Priscilla, the first of two albums he would record with his then-wife, Priscilla Coolidge-Jones (the sister of Rita Coolidge). The same year, Jones produced Just as I Am, the outstanding debut album by Bill Withers, which featured the hits "Ain't No Sunshine" and "Grandma's Hands." In 1975, Jones and the MG's were working on a reunion album when Al Jackson, Jr. was murdered; the group continued to record with drummer Willie Hall, but they parted ways again in 1977. In 1978, Jones released his first solo album, Try and Love Again, and enjoyed one of his biggest successes as a producer with Willie Nelson's Stardust, a collection of pop standards that established Nelson as one of country's biggest crossover acts.
Session work and production assignments with Nelson dominated Jones' schedule in the '80s, though he released a second solo album, I Want You, in 1981; another followed late in the decade, 1989's The Runaway. In 1992, Booker T. & the MG's were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and that same year, the group reunited for a special, high-profile gig: they served as the house band for an all-star tribute to Bob Dylan staged in honor of the songwriter's 30th year as a recording artist. Neil Young, one of the artists who appeared at the concert, was impressed enough with the MG's that he invited them to serve as his backing band for a major concert tour in 1993. The tour sparked new interest in the band, and in 1994, Jones and the MG's cut a new album, That's the Way It Should Be, and they supported it with a number of live dates. Jones soon returned to a steady schedule of session work, and he produced as well as performed on Neil Young's 2002 album Are You Passionate? But in 2008, Jones stepped up for one of his most ambitious solo efforts to date, Potato Hole, in which he was backed up by country-influenced hard rockers the Drive-By Truckers, with Neil Young adding additional guitar on several tunes. The album earned enthusiastic reviews, and Jones supported the release with a number of live dates in America, Europe, and the U.K. In 2011, Jones returned with another inspired collaboration, The Road from Memphis, in which he teamed up in the studio with Philadelphia-based hip-hop/modern soul collective the Roots. Jones returned to Stax Records, now under the Concord Records umbrella, for 2013's guest-laden Sound the Alarm.
Booker T. Jones’ New Memoir to Be Released Next Year
“I want to share with readers how each step of my winding, rocky road has led me to where I am today,” musician says
Booker T. Jones will be releasing a new memoir
next year. Richard Isaac/LNP/REX/Shutterstock
Multi-instrumentalist, songwriter and producer Booker T. Jones will be releasing his long-awaited memoir next fall. The leader of the Stax Records house band and Memphis soul legend’s as-yet-untitled tome is projected for release this fall via Little, Brown and Company. An audiobook version will be available simultaneously through the publisher’s Hachette Audio.
The memoir will explore Jones’ half-century in music and his artistic process, chronicling both his personal journey as well as career hallmarks. It will traverse his early years in the segregated South and examine the music industry pitfalls he experienced along with him revisiting the nightclubs of his youth. It will also trace his successes with Booker T. & the M.G.’s., delve into Stax Records and discuss his group’s induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992.
“Had
I known in third grade when I started playing my clarinet that one day I
would be playing with the likes of B.B. King, Otis Redding, or Bob
Dylan, I might have been too paralyzed to continue my journey,” Jones
said in a statement. “But in life, you do things one moment at a time.
That’s what I want to share with readers—how each step of my winding,
rocky road has led me to where I am today.”
The book will also offer a behind-the-scenes look at the music history he helped shape, such as discussing the writing of Booker T. & the M.G.’s “Green Onions” while he was still a high school student, to talking about the recording of Otis Redding’s “(Sittin’ on) the Dock of the Bay” and detailing collaborations with Wilson Pickett, Sam & Dave, Neil Young, Carlos Santana and Willie Nelson.
Last year, Jones told Rolling Stone why he was inspired to write a memoir, recalling that he feels just excited about making music as when he was a teenager. “I think of musicians as a brotherhood with a purpose, and our purpose is being realized right now, so if I have anything to say it’s about that: what music means to people, what we can give people with our work, whether they use it for pleasure or for spiritual events, weddings, or just living day-to-day,” he said. “It’s about connecting to each other, understanding each other. I think you’re not ever completely alone out here if you’re connecting through music or art.”
https://www.kuumbwajazz.org/soul-legend-booker-t-jones-creative/
Soul legend Booker T. Jones as creative now as he’s ever been
Wednesday, 15 January 2014 | Wallace Baine | Santa Cruz Sentinel
He could have born anywhere, in Little Rock, in Charlotte, in Baltimore. But in the fall of 1944, Booker T. Jones was born in Memphis. And that fact of geography not only shaped his life, it deeply influenced American music as well.
Today, Jones is something beyond a mere star. He is a member of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and a recipient of the Grammys’ Lifetime Achievement Award. He’s also one of the few people that can be said to have pioneered a beloved American musical genre: soul music.
As the frontman for Booker T. & the MGs and the prime instrumentalist behind the groundbreaking sound of Stax Records in the 1960s, Jones was an architect of a distinct Memphis sound that helped delivered R&B from Ray Charles in the 1950s to the funk of the 1970s.
And it might not have happened had been born some other place. Jones grew up as something of a musical prodigy, playing saxophone, trombone, piano, even oboe throughout his school years.
“Memphis is special,” said Jones who performs live for two shows at the Kuumbwa Jazz Center on Monday. “As a young musician, there were just so many opportunities, so many clubs to play, so many musicians to play with. In school, there were all kinds of instruments available to me. It was a gathering place for musicians from all around. Really, for musicians who have grown up in Memphis and have left, Memphis is a frame of mind.”
Jones will forever be famous for the 1962 Top Five hit “Green Onions,” one of the most famous instrumentals in pop music history. Jones wrote and recorded the song with his fabled band the MGs while still in high school.
“It was a Sunday afternoon and I was enjoying some free studio time,” he said. “I hadn’t even graduated (high school) yet.”
The MGs were a four-piece band that was a rarity in the days of civil rights unrest. They were a racially integrated band. Jones and drummer Al Jackson Jr. were black; guitarist Steve Cropper, bass player Lewie Steinberg and Steinberg’s replacement Duck Dunn were all white.
“You know, it was not a big deal to us at that time,” he said. “It’s a big deal now, looking back on it. But not then. We were just haphazardly thrown together mainly because we all like the same kind of music.”
The MGs did not make their most lasting mark as a recording act in their own right, but as the house band at Stax, though they continued to release hit records after “Green Onions,” including “Hip-Hug-Her” and “Hang-‘Em High.” The band backed up many of the most glorious names of the era: Otis Redding, Sam & Dave, Albert King and others. Over his long, 50-plus-year career, Jones has played on many landmark recordings. He was the piano player on Redding’s “(Sittin’ On) The Dock of the Bay” and the bass player on Bob Dylan’s “Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door.” He was the producer of songs such as “Ain’t No Sunshine” by Bill Withers and Willie Nelson’s “Georgia on My Mind.”
However, at 69, Jones is no oldies act. The last five years have been one of his most fruitful periods as a recording artist, as he has found a new groove as an instrumentalist, composer and collaborator. His 2009 album “Potato Hole” on which he brought in the popular indie country band the Drive-By Truckers — Truckers’ lead man Patterson Hood is the son of David Hood, a long-time session man from Muscle Shoals, Ala., and a contemporary of Jones. The album won a Grammy.
In 2011, Jones released the ambitious where he unleashed his trademark Hammond B-3 organ in tribute to the city that created him, with such eye-popping guest collaborators as ?uestlove from the hip-hop band the Roots, and the late Lou Reed. In 2013, Jones was in record stores again with the album “Sound the Alarm,” which marked his return to Stax for the first time in 40 years.
“I think I’ve always been a creative person since I was probably six or seven years old and started playing ukulele and piano. And I’ve had a lot of ideas in my mind the whole time. But I haven’t really had the opportunity to record my ideas until recently.”
Stax Records is not what it used to be. The great Memphis label is now headquartered in Beverly Hills. With his return, Booker T. is the last echo of what Stax used to be, he said.
“They were really nice to me when I walked in,” he said. “I kind of think that I’m the constant between then and now. You know, just carrying on the tradition.”
{ Monday Two shows: 7 and 9 p.m. Kuumbwa Jazz Center, 320-2 Cedar St., Santa Cruz. $30 advance; $35 at the door. www.kuumbwajazz.org. }
https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/booker-t-jones
Songwriter Interviews
Booker T. Jones
by Roger Catlin
While
still a teenager and a studio musician at Stax Records, Booker T. Jones
came up with one of the defining instrumentals of soul in "Green Onions."
There followed a career as head of Booker T. & the MG's, with ace
guitarist Steve Cropper, drummer Al Jackson Jr. and eventually Donald
"Duck" Dunn on bass, recording a series of instrumental hits and backing
Stax artists like Otis Redding in the studio and on tour. Since then,
he's produced Bill Withers' debut and Willie Nelson's Stardust
album, recorded with Stephen Stills (on his first album), and backed
Neil Young as part of the Bob Dylan 30th anniversary concert, where he
led the house band.
Inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992, Jones earned a lifetime achievement Grammy a decade ago. Since then, he's recorded with Drive-By Truckers, played on the Elton John-Leon Russell album, and released a solo album, The Road from Memphis, with contributions from Questlove, Lou Reed and Sharon Jones.
Though he sometimes tours with a big Stax revue show, Jones at 72 was on the road earlier this year with a quartet featuring his son Ted on guitar. He spoke from snowy Lake Tahoe not long after the 2017 Grammys about his early days, playing the Monterey Pop Festival, and the qualities of the B-3.
Roger Catlin (Songfacts): Hey there, how is everything in Lake Tahoe? Inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992, Jones earned a lifetime achievement Grammy a decade ago. Since then, he's recorded with Drive-By Truckers, played on the Elton John-Leon Russell album, and released a solo album, The Road from Memphis, with contributions from Questlove, Lou Reed and Sharon Jones.
Though he sometimes tours with a big Stax revue show, Jones at 72 was on the road earlier this year with a quartet featuring his son Ted on guitar. He spoke from snowy Lake Tahoe not long after the 2017 Grammys about his early days, playing the Monterey Pop Festival, and the qualities of the B-3.
Booker T. Jones: I've got snow above my height. Looking at icicles that look like daggers. Lake Tahoe. The road is closed to Reno. We're doing fine. The sun is shining, the icicles are melting, but it's been an unbelievable storm.
Songfacts: Sounds like you were busy at the Grammys.
Booker T: I played the Tom Petty tribute at MusiCares. We played all his songs for the MusiCares benefit show, with all the guests who came - Norah Jones and a lot of people who played Tom Petty songs - and we raised a bunch of money for MusiCares. They raised $8.5 million.
Held
two days before the Grammy Awards, the 27th annual gala benefitting the
MusiCares Foundation in Los Angeles broke a record for fundraising,
with proceeds going to musicians in medical or financial need. The
previous record event, the 2016 gala honoring Lionel Richie, raised $7.2
million. Jones helmed the house band that also included David
Mansfield, Jay Bellerose, Larkin Poe and a number of Tom Petty's
Heartbreakers.
It was also the longest gala, with performances by Jackson Browne, Randy Newman, George Strait, Foo Fighters, Gary Clark Jr., Lucinda Williams, Jakob Dylan, Taj Mahal, Don Henley, Jeff Lynne and Stevie Nicks, as well as Petty. Younger acts on the bill included The Head and the Heart, Regina Spektor, Cage the Elephant, The Lumineers and Elle King.
It was also the longest gala, with performances by Jackson Browne, Randy Newman, George Strait, Foo Fighters, Gary Clark Jr., Lucinda Williams, Jakob Dylan, Taj Mahal, Don Henley, Jeff Lynne and Stevie Nicks, as well as Petty. Younger acts on the bill included The Head and the Heart, Regina Spektor, Cage the Elephant, The Lumineers and Elle King.
Songfacts: Are those difficult to do? It seems like you would need to know all the songs, and all of the performers as well.
Booker T: It takes some work. I got there on the previous Saturday, and the show was on Friday. It took some rehearsal, but it was fun. His songs are good, and the performers are good. Jakob Dylan sang a song, and Gary Clark Jr. sang a song and a guy from the Eagles. It was good.
Songfacts: You've done a number of those kinds of events. I'm thinking of the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Concert at Madison Square Garden in 1992 and at the White House as well.
Booker T: A couple of shows at the White House, yeah.
Songfacts: What are those like to do?
Booker T: If you're the music director, it's a lot of work, but if you're just playing the organ like I was, it can be a lot of fun. I was the music director for the White House shows, so that was Mick Jagger and B.B. King, and a lot of artists from Memphis. There were two shows: a Memphis show, and a tribute to the blues show.
Songfacts: Is there added pressure because of where you are?
Booker T: It's a lot of pre-preparation, because the music changes keys a lot and the arrangements change. And then everything has to be provided. The production company had to come from California - there were no production companies in DC to do that. They have to know everything from lyrics to times, all that stuff, if it's going to be televised.
Songfacts: Does the President being there add any pressure?
Booker T: Not for the Obamas. He came down to the rehearsals. They made us very comfortable.
There was more security for Obama. The Clinton people were a little more relaxed about it. It wasn't bad though. Playing for the president is hard, though, because presidents have so much security.
Songfacts: You're on tour doing some Stax revues on other dates. What are you doing on your current tour?
Booker T: I play with a quartet, but there may be some Stax songs with the quartet. We've been changing up the setlist quite a bit for the past few years. My son has been playing with me for the past two years. We're doing some new things, some Bill Withers songs and songs we didn't do previously. People like to hear some of the old MG's instrumentals, so we're doing some of those. We're doing some new compositions, changing it up some. I like to do the MG's staple songs: "Green Onions," "Time is Tight," "Hip-Hug-Her." People really love to hear those.
Songfacts: Those have stood the test of time. Why do you think that is? The groove? The simplicity?Booker T: Yeah, you hit the nail on the head there: the simplicity. Well, the apparent simplicity, I'll put it like that, from the position of the player. "Green Onions" appears to be a simple song, but every time I play it I have to pay attention. I have to remember, and school myself on how the notes go, because it's just not as simple as it sounds.
Songfacts: When you recorded that song, it was not something you thought would be the hit it became, right?
Booker T: Exactly, no. I wasn't thinking about a hit. I was just having fun, playing chord changes I learned in my theory lesson.
Songfacts: And you were quite young at the time.
Booker T: Yeah man, I was 17.
Songfacts: That's pretty young to be in a studio at all, let alone all those Stax records you were on.
Booker T: It was, but I was fortunate. I had been in the studio two years at that point. Stax needed a baritone sax player, because their player, Floyd Newman, was a school teacher. He would be in school weekdays, so they came and got me out of algebra class. I got my baritone sax, went down there and got the job. And I told them I could play piano. So I had been playing in a studio since I was in the 10th grade.
Songfacts: Did you pick up a lot of things being in the studio?
Booker T: Most of the stuff during that time I picked up from the clubs, because I was trying to learn music theory: how to play the notes in my head. And a lot of the studio musicians were the club musicians also. Most of what I learned I took from the clubs to the studio.
Songfacts: What made for the Stax sound?
Booker T: A lot of it came from the lack of sophisticated equipment, and the lack of sophistication in general, to be honest with you. Then there was a concerted effort to be simple, to be accessible. We used to say, "Keep it funky and don't play too many notes" - don't have too many frills in the music. I think that created the Stax sound. The chords were simple and accessible.
Songfacts: When did you start writing songs?
Booker T: It takes some work. I got there on the previous Saturday, and the show was on Friday. It took some rehearsal, but it was fun. His songs are good, and the performers are good. Jakob Dylan sang a song, and Gary Clark Jr. sang a song and a guy from the Eagles. It was good.
Songfacts: You've done a number of those kinds of events. I'm thinking of the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Concert at Madison Square Garden in 1992 and at the White House as well.
Booker T: A couple of shows at the White House, yeah.
Songfacts: What are those like to do?
Booker T: If you're the music director, it's a lot of work, but if you're just playing the organ like I was, it can be a lot of fun. I was the music director for the White House shows, so that was Mick Jagger and B.B. King, and a lot of artists from Memphis. There were two shows: a Memphis show, and a tribute to the blues show.
Songfacts: Is there added pressure because of where you are?
Booker T: It's a lot of pre-preparation, because the music changes keys a lot and the arrangements change. And then everything has to be provided. The production company had to come from California - there were no production companies in DC to do that. They have to know everything from lyrics to times, all that stuff, if it's going to be televised.
Songfacts: Does the President being there add any pressure?
Booker T: Not for the Obamas. He came down to the rehearsals. They made us very comfortable.
There was more security for Obama. The Clinton people were a little more relaxed about it. It wasn't bad though. Playing for the president is hard, though, because presidents have so much security.
Songfacts: You're on tour doing some Stax revues on other dates. What are you doing on your current tour?
Booker T: I play with a quartet, but there may be some Stax songs with the quartet. We've been changing up the setlist quite a bit for the past few years. My son has been playing with me for the past two years. We're doing some new things, some Bill Withers songs and songs we didn't do previously. People like to hear some of the old MG's instrumentals, so we're doing some of those. We're doing some new compositions, changing it up some. I like to do the MG's staple songs: "Green Onions," "Time is Tight," "Hip-Hug-Her." People really love to hear those.
Songfacts: Those have stood the test of time. Why do you think that is? The groove? The simplicity?Booker T: Yeah, you hit the nail on the head there: the simplicity. Well, the apparent simplicity, I'll put it like that, from the position of the player. "Green Onions" appears to be a simple song, but every time I play it I have to pay attention. I have to remember, and school myself on how the notes go, because it's just not as simple as it sounds.
Songfacts: When you recorded that song, it was not something you thought would be the hit it became, right?
Booker T: Exactly, no. I wasn't thinking about a hit. I was just having fun, playing chord changes I learned in my theory lesson.
Songfacts: And you were quite young at the time.
Booker T: Yeah man, I was 17.
Songfacts: That's pretty young to be in a studio at all, let alone all those Stax records you were on.
Booker T: It was, but I was fortunate. I had been in the studio two years at that point. Stax needed a baritone sax player, because their player, Floyd Newman, was a school teacher. He would be in school weekdays, so they came and got me out of algebra class. I got my baritone sax, went down there and got the job. And I told them I could play piano. So I had been playing in a studio since I was in the 10th grade.
Songfacts: Did you pick up a lot of things being in the studio?
Booker T: Most of the stuff during that time I picked up from the clubs, because I was trying to learn music theory: how to play the notes in my head. And a lot of the studio musicians were the club musicians also. Most of what I learned I took from the clubs to the studio.
Songfacts: What made for the Stax sound?
Booker T: A lot of it came from the lack of sophisticated equipment, and the lack of sophistication in general, to be honest with you. Then there was a concerted effort to be simple, to be accessible. We used to say, "Keep it funky and don't play too many notes" - don't have too many frills in the music. I think that created the Stax sound. The chords were simple and accessible.
Songfacts: When did you start writing songs?
Jones is partly responsible for the famous "I know, I know, I know" bridge in "Ain't No Sunshine."
Bill Withers planned to fill that in with lyrics, but Jones told him to
leave it as is. Withers, who was a factory worker at the time with no
recording experience, took the advice.
Booker T: That's a
good question. I can remember being a young kid, and pretending to write
songs, but I was really, really young. Maybe 6 years old. I pretended I
was a songwriter. I would put lyrics and words together around the
house, singing to myself. I'm sure none of it was any good, but I had
always seen myself as a songwriter all my life.
Songfacts: What was the first opportunity you had to record one of your songs?
Booker T: You won't believe this. "Green Onions." That was the first time. And that happened by mistake. We got to the studio, and something didn't work with the band before us, and we were supposed to be the backup band. I'm not sure whether they finished early, or whether [label founder and producer] Jim [Stewart] was unhappy with what they were doing, but we ended up with a free studio on a Sunday afternoon.
Songfacts: And you had that melody in your head?
Booker T: Yeah. I had been playing it on piano. I hadn't thought to play it on organ at that time, though. I had been playing it on piano, but I played organ on the previous session, so I was sitting on the organ and played it at the organ, and they liked it on the organ better than on piano.
Songfacts: It defined your role as an organist. It wasn't your main instrument at the time, was it?
Booker T: It did. I got the job at Stax on piano because [Steve] Cropper was the guitar player. I had always played ukulele, clarinet and guitar - that was my main rock 'n' roll instrument. That's what I played at school and at home. I had a Sears Silvertone and I fancied myself as a guitar player, but I never did get that job. Later at Stax I played guitar, but not at first.
Songfacts: Once you had that hit, you stayed at the organ.
Booker T: Well, I was happy at the organ. The first time I saw a Hammond organ I just got a feeling inside about it and I was comfortable. I still am comfortable. Maybe I'm more comfortable at that than any other instrument.
Songfacts: It wasn't a Hammond B-3 on "Green Onions," was it?
Songfacts: What was the first opportunity you had to record one of your songs?
Booker T: You won't believe this. "Green Onions." That was the first time. And that happened by mistake. We got to the studio, and something didn't work with the band before us, and we were supposed to be the backup band. I'm not sure whether they finished early, or whether [label founder and producer] Jim [Stewart] was unhappy with what they were doing, but we ended up with a free studio on a Sunday afternoon.
Songfacts: And you had that melody in your head?
Booker T: Yeah. I had been playing it on piano. I hadn't thought to play it on organ at that time, though. I had been playing it on piano, but I played organ on the previous session, so I was sitting on the organ and played it at the organ, and they liked it on the organ better than on piano.
Songfacts: It defined your role as an organist. It wasn't your main instrument at the time, was it?
Booker T: It did. I got the job at Stax on piano because [Steve] Cropper was the guitar player. I had always played ukulele, clarinet and guitar - that was my main rock 'n' roll instrument. That's what I played at school and at home. I had a Sears Silvertone and I fancied myself as a guitar player, but I never did get that job. Later at Stax I played guitar, but not at first.
Songfacts: Once you had that hit, you stayed at the organ.
Booker T: Well, I was happy at the organ. The first time I saw a Hammond organ I just got a feeling inside about it and I was comfortable. I still am comfortable. Maybe I'm more comfortable at that than any other instrument.
Songfacts: It wasn't a Hammond B-3 on "Green Onions," was it?
Booker T: No, it was an M-3 - half of a B-3. A cut down, spinet model of a B-3.
Songfacts: Are you B-3 entirely now?
Booker T: No, I have an M-3 in my studio again. I favor the sound of the M-3, but none of the organs are practical, so when I play on the road, I have to play what the rental companies have. Sometimes they have an M-3 but very, very rarely.
I think the B-3 became my signature sound because of "Hip Hug-Her" and "Hang 'Em High" and "Time is Tight." Those are all B-3 songs, and they have the Leslie speaker spinning with the choral sound.
Songfacts: So every time you go to a city, somebody has to rent one of those for you?
Booker T: That's the way it is. That all ended in 1992 when the airlines changed their freight fares, and now I don't carry mine any more. They started doing it by weight and it became prohibitive. They used to come out to the house and pick it up and ship it for me. Now they don't do that any more.
Songfacts: Has that caused any problems on the road, where you've had trouble finding one?
Booker T: Yes. There was a Hammond school in Chicago. I think the last guys who attended that school passed away maybe 10 years ago. It's a very difficult instrument to maintain. It's not meant to be moved around. They don't travel well, and there are problems, yes.
Songfacts: What is it about the sound of it that no other instrument can do?
Booker T: Well, because it's a sustained sound as opposed to a piano, and because it has those Leslie cabinets and the horns turn, you can make it sing like a human voice. You can make it sustain louder or softer. You can play more than one note at a time or you can move the notes. I think an organ player can make it sing.
Songfacts: Did anyone try to make an electronic keyboard to emulate that sound?
Booker T: Yes, the process is going on right now. I've been going back and forth with Hammond for I don't know how long in Chicago. They made another prototype and they want me to OK it. I have the manual, which is a digital organ. And to be honest with you, I'm still not sure about it.
Songfacts: There's something about the presence of the B-3 that makes it an imposing instrument to see in concert.
Booker T: Yes. You know, they came up with this thing in 1934 out of automobile parts. Laurens Hammond designed it. He was a clockmaker and an inventor. He was just a special person. And sometimes the first time they do something is the best way. That's the way this is, I think.
Songfacts: Can you see yourself going to a digital version at some point?
Booker T: I'm trying. They've made two or three that I've gone there and played, but I'm still not comfortable with them. I want to be, but I'm not.
Songfacts: You're playing some guitar in live shows now?
Booker T: Yeah. I've been going back to guitar for maybe 30 percent of the show, because a lot of the songs I started with a guitar.
I joke with the audience. I tell them my doctor told me at my age, don't sit on the job for too long, so I get up and play some blues on the guitar. I love playing blues on the guitar. Some of the songs I wrote or was involved with in California, those were guitar songs. "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" or songs when I played a stringed instrument, or William Bell songs, Bill Withers songs.
Songfacts: I see that William Bell was singing one of your songs on the Grammys too.
Booker T: "Bad Sign?" Yeah, we wrote it together. We were partners. He did a good job. He's doing well.
Booker T: Stax was trying to grow as a company and was beginning to record a blues artist, Albert King, who was driving down from East St. Louis and didn't have any music. He needed a song, so they gave me and William the assignment the day before the session to write a song for Albert King. That's what we came up with. He killed it.
Songfacts: You played the Monterey Pop Festival 50 years ago, backing Otis Redding. Did your band play a set there as well?
Booker T: We might have played a couple of songs, but our main job was to back Otis. We may have opened the set with a couple of songs. I played organ and we were backup for Otis.
Songfacts: What do you recall from that event?
Booker T: That was a landmark show. It was the first time we played for that kind of audience. They were so warm and receptive.
There was an indication that the country was changing. We had been in Europe for three weeks, and when we landed in Detroit, we saw hippies for the first time. Otis was nervous and apprehensive about the reception, but it was just extremely warm and successful. It was nice.
Songfacts: Did you see some of the other acts that weekend?
Booker T: We did. We saw some of the acts that night and had a couple of days in town to hang out.
Songfacts: Are you B-3 entirely now?
Booker T: No, I have an M-3 in my studio again. I favor the sound of the M-3, but none of the organs are practical, so when I play on the road, I have to play what the rental companies have. Sometimes they have an M-3 but very, very rarely.
I think the B-3 became my signature sound because of "Hip Hug-Her" and "Hang 'Em High" and "Time is Tight." Those are all B-3 songs, and they have the Leslie speaker spinning with the choral sound.
Songfacts: So every time you go to a city, somebody has to rent one of those for you?
Booker T: That's the way it is. That all ended in 1992 when the airlines changed their freight fares, and now I don't carry mine any more. They started doing it by weight and it became prohibitive. They used to come out to the house and pick it up and ship it for me. Now they don't do that any more.
Songfacts: Has that caused any problems on the road, where you've had trouble finding one?
Booker T: Yes. There was a Hammond school in Chicago. I think the last guys who attended that school passed away maybe 10 years ago. It's a very difficult instrument to maintain. It's not meant to be moved around. They don't travel well, and there are problems, yes.
Songfacts: What is it about the sound of it that no other instrument can do?
Booker T: Well, because it's a sustained sound as opposed to a piano, and because it has those Leslie cabinets and the horns turn, you can make it sing like a human voice. You can make it sustain louder or softer. You can play more than one note at a time or you can move the notes. I think an organ player can make it sing.
Songfacts: Did anyone try to make an electronic keyboard to emulate that sound?
Booker T: Yes, the process is going on right now. I've been going back and forth with Hammond for I don't know how long in Chicago. They made another prototype and they want me to OK it. I have the manual, which is a digital organ. And to be honest with you, I'm still not sure about it.
Songfacts: There's something about the presence of the B-3 that makes it an imposing instrument to see in concert.
Booker T: Yes. You know, they came up with this thing in 1934 out of automobile parts. Laurens Hammond designed it. He was a clockmaker and an inventor. He was just a special person. And sometimes the first time they do something is the best way. That's the way this is, I think.
Songfacts: Can you see yourself going to a digital version at some point?
Booker T: I'm trying. They've made two or three that I've gone there and played, but I'm still not comfortable with them. I want to be, but I'm not.
Songfacts: You're playing some guitar in live shows now?
Booker T: Yeah. I've been going back to guitar for maybe 30 percent of the show, because a lot of the songs I started with a guitar.
I joke with the audience. I tell them my doctor told me at my age, don't sit on the job for too long, so I get up and play some blues on the guitar. I love playing blues on the guitar. Some of the songs I wrote or was involved with in California, those were guitar songs. "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" or songs when I played a stringed instrument, or William Bell songs, Bill Withers songs.
Songfacts: I see that William Bell was singing one of your songs on the Grammys too.
Booker T: "Bad Sign?" Yeah, we wrote it together. We were partners. He did a good job. He's doing well.
Although
Jones co-wrote a number of hits for others, including "I've Never Found
a Girl (To Love Me Like You Do)" for Eddie Floyd and "I Love You More
Than Words Can Say" for Otis Redding, one of his most enduring
compositions is "Born Under a Bad Sign," co-written with William Bell. A hit for Albert King in 1967, Cream recorded it for their third album, Wheels of Fire,
the following year. It was listed by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as
one of the 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll. Others to record it
include Paul Butterfield, Blue Cheer, Etta James, Jimi Hendrix, Rita
Coolidge and even Homer Simpson.
Jones and Bell, whose big hit in 1961 was "You Don't Miss your Water," recorded it as well, Jones with The MG's on their 1968 Soul Limbo album, Bell on his 2016 Grammy-nominated comeback album, This is Where I Live.
Songfacts: That song has become a blues standard. Do you recall how it came about?Jones and Bell, whose big hit in 1961 was "You Don't Miss your Water," recorded it as well, Jones with The MG's on their 1968 Soul Limbo album, Bell on his 2016 Grammy-nominated comeback album, This is Where I Live.
Booker T: Stax was trying to grow as a company and was beginning to record a blues artist, Albert King, who was driving down from East St. Louis and didn't have any music. He needed a song, so they gave me and William the assignment the day before the session to write a song for Albert King. That's what we came up with. He killed it.
Songfacts: You played the Monterey Pop Festival 50 years ago, backing Otis Redding. Did your band play a set there as well?
Booker T: We might have played a couple of songs, but our main job was to back Otis. We may have opened the set with a couple of songs. I played organ and we were backup for Otis.
Songfacts: What do you recall from that event?
Booker T: That was a landmark show. It was the first time we played for that kind of audience. They were so warm and receptive.
There was an indication that the country was changing. We had been in Europe for three weeks, and when we landed in Detroit, we saw hippies for the first time. Otis was nervous and apprehensive about the reception, but it was just extremely warm and successful. It was nice.
Songfacts: Did you see some of the other acts that weekend?
Booker T: We did. We saw some of the acts that night and had a couple of days in town to hang out.
The Monterey International Pop Music Festival,
held June 16-18, 1967 in California, was one of the first big rock
festivals, with seminal performances by The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Janis
Joplin and Otis Redding - all captured in D.A. Pennebaker's 1968 film, Monterey Pop.
The Grateful Dead, Buffalo Springfield, Ravi Shankar, Jefferson
Airplane, Laura Nyro, The Byrds, Moby Grape, Steve Miller Band,
Quicksilver Messenger Service, Country Joe and the Fish, Canned Heat,
Eric Burdon and the Animals, Simon & Garfunkel and The Association
all performed, as did Lou Rawls, Hugh Masekela, The Electric Flag and
the Butterfield Blues Band. Redding's performance, closing the show on
Saturday, proved he could enthrall a wider audience, but six months
later, he died in a plane crash at the age of 26 along with four members
of the Bar-Kays.
Songfacts: Are there other other shows you played back then that stand out for you?
Booker T: The Stax revue in Europe was probably the most prominent that I participated in. Of course, the original performance for me in my life was being a young kid at a kite contest and seeing Al Jackson Jr. playing in his dad's big band in Memphis. That was something that I'll never forget. It's seared in my memory. It was the first time I saw horns on stage. It was the first time I heard live music. And the guy who ended up being my drummer was a young kid playing drums in his dad's band. It's just something about live music seeing it for the first time that just hits you.
Songfacts: Was that in Memphis?
Booker T: That was in Lincoln Park in Memphis. Al Jackson Sr. was the band leader.
There was a Count Basie concert in Chicago that affected me like that a few years later when I was a teenager. I took a train up to Chicago to see his concert and sneaked into a hotel there and heard him play in the ballroom. He had Sonny Payne on drums and I was sitting there in front of Count Basie, hearing that music, hearing him live, playing his arrangements, the horns. There were five brass, five reeds, guitar and upright bass. That was a special concert for me. He was such a special musician and bandleader.
Songfacts: Did you think you'd go into jazz when you were young?
Booker T: That's what you were supposed to do in Memphis if you were studying music and went to music theory. That was what we all thought our calling and legacy would be. I say us, I mean myself and my buddy Maurice White - he was my young musician friend. He ended up trying to do that. He went to play with Ramsey Lewis and the jazz people in Chicago. [White later formed Earth, Wind & Fire.]
But that was what you were supposed to do. You were supposed to follow the footsteps of Frank Strozier, Booker Little, Jack McDuff. Those guys that played a little blues, maybe with B.B. King, but ultimately, they studied classical and they played jazz. And that's what you were supposed to do.
Songfacts: The soul music you played on is stuff you were inventing as you went along.
Booker T: That's the strange position I was in. You're absolutely right. It didn't really exist like that until we started playing, until they started playing over at Hi [Records]. Al Green and those people, it sort of grew up with us. It sort of originated with us, and that's kind of funny. The music before that was really nightclub blues. Then we started mixing it with some rockabilly and some country and some funk at Stax with Cropper and Dunn and those musicians - white musicians from east Memphis.
Yeah, it was strange. And of course, there was Sam Cooke and some of the gospel groups that evolved into soul groups when they left the church. The Soul Stirrers. But they were offsprings of gospel groups.
Booker T: The Stax revue in Europe was probably the most prominent that I participated in. Of course, the original performance for me in my life was being a young kid at a kite contest and seeing Al Jackson Jr. playing in his dad's big band in Memphis. That was something that I'll never forget. It's seared in my memory. It was the first time I saw horns on stage. It was the first time I heard live music. And the guy who ended up being my drummer was a young kid playing drums in his dad's band. It's just something about live music seeing it for the first time that just hits you.
Songfacts: Was that in Memphis?
Booker T: That was in Lincoln Park in Memphis. Al Jackson Sr. was the band leader.
There was a Count Basie concert in Chicago that affected me like that a few years later when I was a teenager. I took a train up to Chicago to see his concert and sneaked into a hotel there and heard him play in the ballroom. He had Sonny Payne on drums and I was sitting there in front of Count Basie, hearing that music, hearing him live, playing his arrangements, the horns. There were five brass, five reeds, guitar and upright bass. That was a special concert for me. He was such a special musician and bandleader.
Songfacts: Did you think you'd go into jazz when you were young?
Booker T: That's what you were supposed to do in Memphis if you were studying music and went to music theory. That was what we all thought our calling and legacy would be. I say us, I mean myself and my buddy Maurice White - he was my young musician friend. He ended up trying to do that. He went to play with Ramsey Lewis and the jazz people in Chicago. [White later formed Earth, Wind & Fire.]
But that was what you were supposed to do. You were supposed to follow the footsteps of Frank Strozier, Booker Little, Jack McDuff. Those guys that played a little blues, maybe with B.B. King, but ultimately, they studied classical and they played jazz. And that's what you were supposed to do.
Songfacts: The soul music you played on is stuff you were inventing as you went along.
Booker T: That's the strange position I was in. You're absolutely right. It didn't really exist like that until we started playing, until they started playing over at Hi [Records]. Al Green and those people, it sort of grew up with us. It sort of originated with us, and that's kind of funny. The music before that was really nightclub blues. Then we started mixing it with some rockabilly and some country and some funk at Stax with Cropper and Dunn and those musicians - white musicians from east Memphis.
Yeah, it was strange. And of course, there was Sam Cooke and some of the gospel groups that evolved into soul groups when they left the church. The Soul Stirrers. But they were offsprings of gospel groups.
Songfacts: It must be gratifying for you to have helped create the Stax sound, and have it be so strong today.
Booker T: You know, Roger, it was unbelievable good fortune to be born there, even if nothing had happened like it did, because it was such a rich field to grow in - to learn the chords, to play with the musicians, to get the opportunities to play. Just the atmosphere there, the schools, the horns that were available to me. When I was nine years old I had my hands on an oboe - I was playing oboe in the school orchestra. It was such good fortune.
Songfacts: Do you think kids have less of an opportunity to do that today?
Booker T: So much so that I'm working with the recording academy to just give money right to a school in LA, right to a school in Kansas City. Kids don't have the instruments, and they don't have the teachers like we did. I don't know what's happened with the legislators around the country, but they just have not made that a priority like it was back then.
Songfacts: You've played with a lot of younger musicians, getting Grammys for albums you've recorded with The Roots and Drive-By Truckers. How did those come about?
Booker T: A lot of my early recordings in Memphis were listened to by a lot of bands and practically every band I've worked with in the recent past has been someone who grew up with that music or their parents did, so they know me.
In the case of the Drive-By Truckers, Patterson Hood, he just felt like he knew me because his dad listened to the music and his dad had played music that was very similar. [His dad is David Hood, one of the famous Swampers responsible for the Muscle Shoals sound.] So when we went into the studio, they felt like they knew me.
And the same with The Roots in New York City. Questlove and his guys, they listened to The Meters and they listened to Booker T. & the M.G.'s when they were young, so they felt like they knew me when we went into the studio.
Songfacts: Is it fun to get in the studio with those guys?Booker T: It is, yes. It's great. The new ideas and the fresh energy is amazing. I'm really experiencing that with my son Ted now. he just left here yesterday. We've been working on some new stuff up here. The fresh energy - it's amazing to compare their energy and my energy when I was their age. And they're so much more inventive and quick, because they have a richer legacy to grow on than I did.
Songfacts: Are you working on a new album now?
Booker T: Yes, with my son, and for myself. And working on the road with the four-piece. One thing I'm doing with the four-piece is I'm teaching them the old MG's songs and I'm also working on the Stax revue. That's just some wonderful music that we're beginning to present again to the public - Otis Redding songs, Sam & Dave, Wilson Pickett, Eddie Floyd - so much good music there. Jean Knight from Stax. But yeah, there's a lot to do. Writing a book.
Songfacts: You're not slowing down at all?
Booker T: Not at this point. I don't really understand it yet.
June 13, 2017.
Further reading:
Booker T: You know, Roger, it was unbelievable good fortune to be born there, even if nothing had happened like it did, because it was such a rich field to grow in - to learn the chords, to play with the musicians, to get the opportunities to play. Just the atmosphere there, the schools, the horns that were available to me. When I was nine years old I had my hands on an oboe - I was playing oboe in the school orchestra. It was such good fortune.
Songfacts: Do you think kids have less of an opportunity to do that today?
Booker T: So much so that I'm working with the recording academy to just give money right to a school in LA, right to a school in Kansas City. Kids don't have the instruments, and they don't have the teachers like we did. I don't know what's happened with the legislators around the country, but they just have not made that a priority like it was back then.
Songfacts: You've played with a lot of younger musicians, getting Grammys for albums you've recorded with The Roots and Drive-By Truckers. How did those come about?
Booker T: A lot of my early recordings in Memphis were listened to by a lot of bands and practically every band I've worked with in the recent past has been someone who grew up with that music or their parents did, so they know me.
In the case of the Drive-By Truckers, Patterson Hood, he just felt like he knew me because his dad listened to the music and his dad had played music that was very similar. [His dad is David Hood, one of the famous Swampers responsible for the Muscle Shoals sound.] So when we went into the studio, they felt like they knew me.
And the same with The Roots in New York City. Questlove and his guys, they listened to The Meters and they listened to Booker T. & the M.G.'s when they were young, so they felt like they knew me when we went into the studio.
Songfacts: Is it fun to get in the studio with those guys?Booker T: It is, yes. It's great. The new ideas and the fresh energy is amazing. I'm really experiencing that with my son Ted now. he just left here yesterday. We've been working on some new stuff up here. The fresh energy - it's amazing to compare their energy and my energy when I was their age. And they're so much more inventive and quick, because they have a richer legacy to grow on than I did.
Songfacts: Are you working on a new album now?
Booker T: Yes, with my son, and for myself. And working on the road with the four-piece. One thing I'm doing with the four-piece is I'm teaching them the old MG's songs and I'm also working on the Stax revue. That's just some wonderful music that we're beginning to present again to the public - Otis Redding songs, Sam & Dave, Wilson Pickett, Eddie Floyd - so much good music there. Jean Knight from Stax. But yeah, there's a lot to do. Writing a book.
Songfacts: You're not slowing down at all?
Booker T: Not at this point. I don't really understand it yet.
June 13, 2017.
Further reading:
Stax Today
Interview with Bill Withers
Booker's official site
Booker T. Jones performing live in the Jazz24/KPLU Seattle studios on June 28, 2013. Credit: Justin Steyer
During the 1960s there was a golden age of soul music in America. Some of the greatest songs from that era came from the Stax
Recording Studio in Memphis, Tennessee. A short list of artists who
recorded there could include Otis Redding, Rufus Thomas, Sam & Dave
and the instrumental band led by Hammond organist, Booker T.
Jones—Booker T. And The M.G.s.
Not only did Booker T. and his band have hit records of their own, they backed up many of the Stax/Volt soul singers. So we were honored to have Booker T. Jones visit KPLU for a solo organ/vocals studio session.
You can also find our Studio Sessions available as a video podcast in iTunes.
The link can be found here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/kplu-studio-sessions-video/id657517777
I know it’s hard to do, but admit it: those Booker T. & the MG’s records are kinda corny. Yes, yes, they’re fun, they’re groovy, they’re funky, and they’re slathered with so much Memphis-style sauce, it wouldn’t be hard to mistake ‘em for a dish at Payne’s BBQ. But still, those Beatles covers, that Rascals cover, hell, even “Green Onions” … they’re all just kinda corny in a lighthearted, we-cracked-the-bottle-open-and-this-is-what-poured-out kinda way. This is an observation that nobody likes to make, mainly because it casts an aspersion on the World’s Best House Band, the guys that defined the Stax take on Memphis soul in the ‘60s. But I don’t think the band would mind; they knew that the rock-solid grooves they were laying down behind the likes of Isaac Hayes and Otis Redding were the meat and potatoes; “Green Onions” was just a garnish.
Booker T. Jones’ recent solo work, however, is anything but corny. His last solo record — 2009’s Potato Hole — was a tour de force of gritty, twangy blues on which he completely and appropriately overshadowed the contributions of the Drive-By Truckers and Neil Young. On The Road from Memphis, Jones ups the collaborator ante: the Roots are the backing band this time around, guests like Sharon Jones and Jim James make appearances, and Gabe Roth (Daptone Records) was brought in to man the boards. And, once again, the real stars here are Jones’ organ hands. Demonstrating a style that’s less concerned with the cheerful melodies and jaunty basslines of the M.G.s’ most famous work, Jones’ sound here is more measured and full-bodied, giving substantial leeway to Questlove’s ferocious, on-the-mark drumming. The organ still leads the way — sometimes in quirky and near-improvisational ways, such as on the fiercely funky “The Hive” — but most of The Road from Memphis sounds like the work of a band that’s spent years together, rather than a leader and a backup band.
The funk here is deep and solid, but what’s most refreshing is how Jones and the Roots never opt for the most obvious breaks or riffs; the noodly, soulful cover of “Crazy” (you knew he’d cover something, right?), the punishingly unpredictable twists and turns of “Harlem House,” and the head-bobbing crunch of “Down in Memphis” all manage to punch your gut with a groove without giving the slightest indication that the compositions are taking anything for granted. Of the 11 tracks on The Road from Memphis, the only real bummer is the treacly hometown homage of “Representing Memphis,” featuring Sharon Jones and The National’s Matt Beringer; instead of burning through the track with Sharon Jones’ fringe-flecked fire or Beringer’s deep-throated melodrama, both guests seem to shy away from the enormity of the job at hand, making the tourist-board-ready tune even more … well, corny.
https://www.keyboardmag.com/artists/booker-t-jones-revitalizes-the-memphis-soul-sound
Booker T Jones Revitalizes the Memphis Soul Sound
Booker is back. The living legend, who with his group
the MGs helped create the Memphis soul sound at Stax Records in the
1960s—and ushered in the idea of racially integrated bands in the
process—has been getting so much well deserved attention of late that it
feels like he never left.
His 2009 comeback Potato Hole, a rock-influenced project
featuring the Drive By Truckers and Neil Young, won the Grammy for Best
Instrumental Album. The phone started ringing off the hook, and one of
those calls was Roots’ drummer Questlove, who then produced Booker’s
2011 album The Road from Memphis. Boom—another Grammy.
Recently, Booker musically directed and played B-3 on PBS’ In Performance at the White House.
The episode, which aired April 16, celebrated Memphis music and
featured artists such as Mavis Staples, Queen Latifah, Ben Harper, and
Justin Timberlake, not to mention one very delighted U.S. President.
Now, Booker T. reaches for new creative heights on Sound the Alarm, a
musical time machine trip through what real soul music should sound
like. Booker co-produced the album with Bobby and Iz Avila of the Avila
Brothers, and collaborations include Mayer Hawthorne, Estelle, Anthony
Hamilton, Sheila E. and Poncho Sanchez, Gary Clark Jr., and Bill
Withers’ daughter Kori. Just before he played two shows at San
Francisco’s Yoshi’s music club—where he not only delivered his
crowd-pleasing B-3 hits but also played guitar and sang in a baritone
that held the audience rapt—I had the privilege of catching up with
Booker about the new record, where he’s been, and where he’s going.
We spoke in 2009 as Potato Hole was being released.
Since, you’ve won two more Grammys and gained a whole a new generation
of listeners. Back in 2009, did you imagine your resurgence being this
huge?
No, I didn’t care about commercial success. I just
wanted to play. But I’ve been fortunate because after the shows—when
very often I meet people—every other person will say, “This is my son”
or “This is my daughter.” They’re bringing their kids, both overseas and
here. Some of them are actually very young; some are teenagers,
20-year-olds, so that’s great. It’s kept me going that they’re playing
my records for their kids, who are asking me questions about them.
Sound the Alarm is on the Stax label, which you were a big part of in its early days in Memphis. What can you tell us about its rebirth?
That
was Norman Lear and John Burk at Concord rejuvenating the whole thing.
They were looking to bring me in the whole while, and I didn’t know
that, but now they have. When I walked into the office it was like,
“Where’ve you been?” They really made an effort to make me feel good.
Not that [previous label] Anti- wasn’t good for me, but this is
different.
How did music-directing the PBS White House special come about?
The
producers had seen a show I did and they wanted me to do my thing
there. It turned out to be a formidable task. I’d played at the White
House before, for President Clinton, but the security now is
unbelievable. Ken Ehrlich’s production company brought all their people
and gear from the West Coast, so it was pretty huge. Big cables running
into the east room, plus the musical equipment, but it ended up being
fun. President Obama and his wife enjoyed the music and all the
congresspeople and senators that came just relaxed and had a good time.
You played President Obama into the room with “Green Onions.” Who’s idea was that?
It
was his idea. We’d played a fundraiser in San Francisco a few years
back. The President walked into the room, I played “Green Onions,” and
he said, “I want to make that the new ‘Hail to the Chief.’” [Laughs.]
To you, what is the Memphis soul sound as contrasted with, say, the Motown sound or New Orleans sound?
Well,
the Memphis sound is something that was too big and broad to capture in
that one-hour show. You had Jerry Lee Lewis, Elvis, Al Green . . . just
too much. The show wound up focusing on Stax—I guess because of me—but
it could easily have been four hours long. So much Memphis music got
ignored by the mainstream, whereas the Motown sound was so identifiably
Motown—the Temptations, the Four Tops, Diana Ross and the Supremes, and
you still have kind of basically the same sound. You don’t have the
difference between Elvis Presley and Ann Peebles. Then there was all the
Gospel stuff that started in Memphis that got overlooked, Joe Dukes,
all those people.
Who came out of Memphis that you think should be a lot more recognized than they are?
For
that show I called Bobby Manuel to play rhythm guitar. He’s an example
of undiscovered Memphis talent. Steve Potts, Bobby Manuel, James
Alexander—that was the rhythm section. That’s why the music sounded so
authentic.
Johnny Ace is one of my influences. Ann Peebles. Willie
Mitchell. I wouldn’t be here if Willie didn’t play. He was my very
first mentor. That’s how I got to meet [founding MGs drummer] Al Jackson
Jr. I was playing bass and Al was behind me and Willie was there. Plus,
he paid me some money! [Laughs.] Willie is in the Memphis
Music Hall of Fame, but he should be in a national hall of fame. He’s
done so much for music just by mentoring young musicians. He’s like
Quincy Jones, who will spend his own money to bring a young musician up.
He did that for me.
How did meeting Quincy Jones come about?
He’d
heard “Green Onions” and invited me to New York and took me downtown to
these clubs. That was the first time I’d heard music played like
that—the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Band, in 1962 or ’63. When I went to
California and was trying to write music for the film Uptight,
he showed me how to coordinate beats per minute with frames per second.
At that time we had to because everything was on 35-millimeter film and
to edit a soundtrack to the picture, you calculated your tempo by the
number of frames per second. Quincy sent me those charts. He was just a
generous guy. I was so glad when he was inducted into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame. Sometimes people just have to give to young people that
don’t have. Willie Mitchell was like that. I wouldn’t be here had it not
been for him.
On that topic, is there any new musician on your radar?
The
guitarist, Gary Clark Jr. We were doing a demo for iTunes at Apple in
Cupertino. I hear this music coming from downstairs. It’s Gary and a
drummer, and I go down there and give him my phone number and I tell
him, “If you need anything, call me.” He’s so humble. He was already a
star and I had no idea. But I found out that he was from Austin and that
he’d played with all the guys down at Clifford Antone’s blues club. [Clark plays on the track “Austin Blues” on Sound the Alarm. —Ed.]
You
performed with legends like Mavis Staples at the White House event, and
also with Justin Timberlake. What impression did he make on you?
Justin
is a true Memphis musician. He had the vibe, and the communication was
easy, with no need for many words. He’s a true professional. You know,
he comes from a part of Memphis that I wouldn’t have known about in the
early days, and he wouldn’t have known about mine. Memphis was
segregated. It was a minor miracle that Steve Cropper and “Duck” Dunn
and myself and all of us came together at Stax on McLemore Avenue. That
geographical juncture happened because Whites were moving out and Blacks
were moving in. Don Nix was another guy who tried to mix it up with the
Blacks and the Whites, kind of like Cropper.
A reader wrote on
our Facebook page that you play with great economy—few notes but tons of
expression—and wanted to know about this approach.
It comes from what I did right and what I did wrong for my childhood
music teacher, Mrs. Elmertha Cole. Her paradigm for music started with
Bach’s Well-Tempered Clavier. You talk about minimalism—Bach is
the essence of musical sentences that use as few “letters” as possible.
Not only is this coming from an entertaining standpoint, but also a
spiritual standpoint. That has stuck with me from ten or 11 years old:
Don’t play any note unless it has some type of significance. There was
my mother, too. She was a very soulful and emotive piano player. She
played Gospel music and Chopin—everything classical but also church
music. But Mrs. Cole is the one that taught me organ, so I owe her all
that. Mrs. Cole wasand still is my indicator of what’s right and what’s wrong in music.
Mrs. Cole’s house was also where you first heard the Hammond, correct?
Yes,
and again, the first notes I heard her play on organ were Bach. An
interesting thing about the Hammond is the dissent between Laurens
Hammond and Don Leslie—because the organ and the speaker were a marriage
made in heaven. The long, sustained note on the organ doesn’t mean
anything until the Leslie kicks in and starts to move the air. That’s
historic.
Some songs on Sound the Alarm are very
contemporary. Others sound so vintage they could be from the Stax
archives. Was this conscious or did it just come out of the different
collaborators?
It was the collaborations—Iz Avila and his
Akai MPC, for one thing. You know, he’s a Stax disciple. I think the
record sounds like the natural evolution of Stax—like where Stax
should’ve gone had not it had the hiccup of bankruptcy and all that.
It’s picking up where it left off.
On the title track to Sound the Alarm, how did working with Mayer Hawthorne come about?
I
was introduced to Mayer by Daryl Hall up at his house. It was an
eye-opening day for me to find a young, blue-eyed soul guy that could
hang with Daryl Hall. I was just shocked. We rehearsed those songs maybe
one time.
What was the sample at the beginning of someone saying that you “need no introduction”?
That’s
Albert King. That was from a show in Los Angeles that we did just
before the Watts riots. Iz Avila threw that in there with his MPC.
“Fun” is perhaps the most vintage-sounding track. What was its inspiration?
“Fun”
was one of the Avila Brothers’ ideas. It’s different from anything on
the album. It’s very much a ’60s song. It’s like a Four Tops type of
thing.
Then you have a big contrast, “Can’t Wait”
featuring Estelle, which is almost an electronica track. Did you play
any synths on it?
I did some of the background, but that
sound—I don’t know if you can tell, but it’s actually a Hammond. It’s
like what I did on “Melting Pot,” where the reverb appears.
What’s the technique?
I
get the reverb going and then I back off on the expression pedal. I
play, bring the volume back, and then you hear the reverb sound—the
tail—without the sound at the start. So that makes the chords a little
“behind.” For that song, if I play the chords on time it doesn’t sound on time.
Another unusual Hammond tone is on the Kori Withers duet “Watch You Sleeping.” The motif is sort of Japanese. . . .
It’s all fourths. One little drawbar—the eight-foot—and real soft. But I’m going like this. [Plays fourths with both hands in contrary motion.] To me it sounded gentle, like the subconscious, like sleeping. That was how the lyrics came.
How did you and your son Ted get together on “Father Son Blues”?
We
had an apartment in West Hollywood, and one day, Ted was practicing
guitar. He loves Joe Bonamassa and would watch him on TV, and one day I
thought, from the bedroom, that I was hearing Joe on the TV, but it was
actually Ted! That’s when I decided to put this tune together for him,
as he’s a great player and he approaches guitar like training for a
sport. Basically it’s just me trying to teach my son what it was like in
1950 to play the blues in a club. The basic riff in that song was what
we played on Beale Street all night long!
It’s also the tune where you stretch out the most on the organ.
I know—even though it’s in the key of B. How weird is that? How do you play blues in B? The blues scale doesn’t fall under the fingers well in B.
Why B, then?
It sounds great. It rings. That’s why I used Db for Albert King for “Born Under a Bad Sign” as opposed to F or even C. Db is like Gb,
those certain keys. They’re hard to play in but you get that sound.
Different instruments ring better in certain keys. There’s something
about the way the world is made, the way the keys go through the air.
Some are more effective than others.
What’s in your home studio these days?
I
still have my Hammond B-3, of course. Ableton, Pro Tools, and Sibelius
in the computer, and I’m using a Novation [SL Mk. II] controller. We
just moved, and I haven’t really got it set up yet.
Do you tour with a B-3 or portable, or is it on your rider for backline?
I
have a New B-3 Portable and Leslie 3300 speaker—I love the 3300, by the
way—but these days I’m playing so many places that I have to rent at
every place. We might jump from Vancouver to Paris. I’ve stayed on the
player’s side of the organ so much that I’ve only just gotten around to
studying how it works, but vintage B-3s need to be fixed more and more
now, even the good ones. So I’ve been opening up Beauty and the B by Mark Vail and studying how the instrument works.
Are there any songs where you prefer playing piano rather than organ?
I
wanted to play Leon Russell’s “A Song For You” the other day for my
wife Nan. Leon has these thirds and sixths at the beginning, and on the
organ, you don’t have the ring that you have on the piano. The intro to
“A Song For You” on the organ is just not as effective. You can do it
and walk down and you get to that final minor chord in the intro, and
then you start to sing. The emotional effect is lost on the Hammond if
you do that. But then you can do things on the organ that you can’t do
on the piano.
Did you also encounter Leon Russell early in your career?
When
I had just gone from Memphis to California, emotional because I’d left
my home, he was the first person I met. He was generous, just like
Quincy Jones: “Come to my house, use the studio, use the piano.” He’s
completely open and he’s writing all these song and he’s the session
player of the century. He was playing on everything—and he just
let musicians stay at his house. He was working on “A Song For You”
when I was around, so the song still means so much to me. I’ll probably
do it tomorrow night at the gig. Leon is just a national treasure.
The
Hammond was once sold as a pipe organ alternative for smaller churches.
Did you develop any organ technique playing in church as a young man?
I
did play in church. There was nobody else to play for them. I had to be
there, in a suit and tie. The church was just a couple blocks from the
club, too. I’d leave the club at 4 A.M. and get to Bible class at 9. My
church, though, was an African-American Methodist church where the
service was more formal compared to things like the Sanctified Church.
We played classical religious music in the church—hymns.
What type of project would you like to do next?
Well,
if you walk into my studio, you’ll see the score for Beethoven’s Ninth
right under the computer, and that’s what’s on my iPod. I’m not saying
it will necessarily be the next project because there are so many other
things and new musicians that I love. At the core, though, is the
instrument of all instruments: the orchestra. In my dreams there are
pieces I haven’t captured yet—and that’s what I originally trained to
do. It was hard because you had to have score paper all over the place
and your hand would get tired from writing parts in different key
signatures. Now that they’ve refined Sibelius, anything is possible. I
recently played with the Memphis Symphony, and I’d written out a whole
arrangement of my tune “Time Is Tight” for them, and I just caught the
bug.
Do you see yourself composing for orchestra? Conducting?
I
still have to learn what the masters were teaching. Once I study
Beethoven and Brahms more, then I’ll have a basis to write my own music.
I think I might be able to conduct my own music. You have to know a
composition very, very well to conduct it. So, possibly.
Because I come from Memphis, I think I’d have something unique to offer.
This wouldn’t be commercial at all. But it’d be the crowning point of
my life to be able to put some of my ideas down for orchestra. The
orchestra would be my Lamborghini.
You’ve said that commercial success hasn’t been a priority. But is it fair to say that it has found you—again—and is finally letting you do things your way?
I
think that these days I’m one of the privileged few to have a recording
contract, to have the opportunities I have. I’m a privileged guy to be
able to play shows for people all over the world. I’m getting
opportunities that not many people get. There are people who have my
abilities who don’t have those opportunities. I meet them—great
musicians not making enough money. Music is suffering. So I feel very
fortunate.
What would you say to a talented musician who’s starting out and values artistic integrity in the way you do?
My
wife Nan and I just moved to Tahoe, and I wanted to get a library card.
I walked into the local library, and André Previn’s book [No Minor Chords: My Days in Hollywood]
was right there. He was always an inspiration for me—I first learned
about him in the ’60s, so I checked out the book. His observations about
being commercial versus following your own craft, and why he left
Hollywood, are just searing. He and I have some things in common. He
came from somewhere else—Germany in his case—and for a while Hollywood
was the only place for him. He worked his tail off there for very little
reward, and finally followed his own heart when he started to conduct
and write for orchestra. He also loved jazz. To be himself and
make money was a big challenge. He got a booking agent to book him
around the world with all these orchestras, ended up losing money on a
lot of gigs, and his hotel room was tiny. That’s the same thing we went
through. He had to pay his own way, but he was doing what he loved.
Booker’s Tips for Organists
Listen
to Great Players. I got my inspiration from hearing Quincy Jones’
arrangement of “One Mint Julep” and Ray Charles playing on it. That’s
when I heard “the sound.” Ray didn’t care directly about the Hammond,
but he defined a sound. Then I heard Bill Doggett. That was the
funkiness. Then I heard Jimmy Smith and that was the “Oh my God.” Jack
McDuff was the attitude—just bad. If I hadn’t heard those people I wouldn’t be here. Next up, I want to go to New York and hear Akiko Tsuruga.
Curl Your Fingers.If
you catch a basketball with your fingers splayed flat out, you’ve had
it. You have to curl your fingers. It’s the same on the keyboard. You
have less reach, but because of the way the hand is made, you get more
strength and dexterity from the curl.
Change Leslie Speeds Tastefully.I
tend to like straight tones but my philosophy is that a straight tone
doesn’t mean anything unless it’s animated with the Leslie. Just like
music doesn’t mean anything without silence. It’s the same with the fast
Leslie—the tremolo. Sometimes I use the tremolo in addition to the
chorale (slow speed) for the full effect.
Find Your Voice and Stick With It.You
need to have this crazy faith in your own voice somehow coming through.
When people know it’s me when I’m playing the organ, that’s a
phenomenon, because I’m basically imitating Jimmy Smith and Ray Charles
and Bill Doggett. In my mind, I’m imitating but to others, it sounds
like me. I learned Bill Doggett’s solo to “Honky Tonk” and Ray
Charles’ solo to “One Mint Julep.” Self-belief is important for a
Hammond player because it’s an unwieldy instrument and an unlikely solo
instrument, but the people who’ve stuck with it have made successful
careers.
Booker T. Jones brings soulful legacy to Tower
Keyboardist who defined Stax sound brings quartet to Bend
Booker
T. Jones, best known as keyboardist for Booker T. and the MG's, the
house band for Stax Records in the '60s that defined the sound of
Memphis soul, will perform with his quartet at the Tower Theatre on
Saturday. (Piper Ferguson/Submitted photo)
What: Booker T. Jones
When: 7 p.m. Saturday
Where: Tower Theatre, 835 NW Wall St., Bend
Cost: $79, $73.50, $67.50, $56.50 or $49.50 plus theater preservation fee
Contact: towertheatre.org, redlightpro.com or 541-317-0700
As leader of Booker T. and The M.G.’s, the
house band for Stax Records throughout most of the ’60s, Booker T.
Jones defined the Memphis soul sound.
He’s
still best known for his rhythmic Hammond organ playing on records by
Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding, Albert King, Bill Withers, Carla Thomas
and countless others — not to mention instrumental M.G.’s cuts such as
the immediately recognizable “Green Onions.”
But that’s only scratching the surface of what
Jones can and has done with his playing over the course of his nearly
six-decade career. Collaborators over the years include Bob Dylan, with
whom he toured in 1992 alongside M.G.’s bandmates Steve Cropper and
Donald “Duck” Dunn; Willie Nelson, whose 1978 album “Stardust” was
produced by Jones; and Stephen Stills. More recently, Jones worked with
Southern rock band Drive-By Truckers on his 2009 comeback solo album
“Potato Hole” and hip-hop band The Roots on its follow-up, 2011’s “The
Road from Memphis.”
Jones is currently working
on a follow up to 2013’s “Sound the Alarm,” which featured guests such
as Gary Clark Jr. and British singer/rapper Estelle. At this point, even
he isn’t sure what direction the new music will take, as he revealed to
GO! Magazine during a recent chat ahead of his performance at the Tower
Theatre on Saturday.
“I’ve always worked on
music in a lot of fronts, and it’s just an effort to try to contain
myself, to be honest with you,” he said from his home in Carson City,
Nevada. “I’ve always loved classical music, and I just did some concerts
with Charles Lloyd — I’ve always loved jazz; Charles is a great player
from Memphis. I’m working with my son (Ted Jones); we’re working on new
original material. Plus, I’ve always loved dance music. It’s a challenge
to try to corral my ideas, but I’m working on it.”
A new album may be a while coming, though. In addition to a tour
schedule that “goes pretty much year-round,” Jones will release a memoir
exploring his life and music sometime later this year or early next.
“I’ve always loved words — my dad loved words,” he said. “I started
writing some essays probably 10 years ago, and I still have them, and I
finally sent them to an agent.”
Jones is best
known for his work on the Hammond B-3 organ, getting his first taste of
the instrument from his piano teacher Elmertha Cole. But Jones, a child
prodigy, took up many instruments as a kid, and latched onto clarinet
and saxophone early.
“My next-door neighbor,
his father was a band teacher from Florida and he practiced oboe, and
that was an intoxicating sound,” Jones said. “My school had one, so I
taught myself to play it. … And that led to clarinet, and my dad bought
me a clarinet. For years, I played the clarinet and the saxophones,
alto. My first job was playing baritone saxophone at Stax Records —
Satellite as it was called then. I became known as a sax player in
Memphis, because that’s how I got that job, and that was a good-paying
job paying $15 every day after school in 1958.”
At recent shows, Jones has focused on all aspects of his career, from
M.G.’s songs to material he helped write and produce. He has been
playing more guitar and singing onstage alongside his guitarist son Ted
Jones in his quartet, and revealed he wrote most of the songs he’s known
for on the instrument.
“I did consider
(guitar) my main instrument until we recorded ‘Green Onions,’ and I was
playing keyboards on that — I was playing Hammond organ. So that became a
big hit, and I became known as a keyboard player, so then I just kept
playing keyboards,” he said. “But most of the songs that I wrote that
are in my catalog I started on guitar, and I still start most vocal
songs with guitar. ”
“Green Onions,” recorded
when Jones was 17 in 1962 during downtime at another session, kicked off
the M.G.’s first run, which lasted until Jones left Stax Records in
1971. The instrumental song has been used in films such as “American
Graffiti,” and led to further hits “Time is Tight” and “Hip Hug-Her.”
“It was a riff that I had been playing in theory class on piano trying
to figure out the one-three-four chords, and just kind of a fun little
blues riff,” Jones said. “… We had previously recorded what turned out
to be ‘Behave Yourself,’ which was a real Memphis blues. … Everybody in
the room thought that that was a record, that it should be released.
That was an organ song, organ lead. At some point after the excitement,
people realized, well, you can’t put out a one-sided record; you have to
have something for the B-side. That’s when ‘Green Onions’ came out.”
The burgeoning civil rights movement also had a major effect on the
music the M.G.’s made. Along with pioneering soul, the group was one of
the first bands to feature black and white musicians together.
“One of the guiding forces of the music that we were doing then was the
socio-political scene at the time. That was sort of a guideline for
us,” Jones said. “We were based around the Lorraine Motel (in Memphis,
Tennessee). That’s where we had our meetings, and white and black, and
that’s where Steve Cropper and Eddie Floyd wrote their songs maybe about
three or four rooms down from where Dr. (Martin Luther) King (Jr.) was
shot. So a lot of that intention came from that environment of the
struggle.”
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“Sound the Alarm”: https://open.spotify.com/album/2I3ExDM1Km2dCj325AWYxI
Late-night television owes Booker T. Jones a debt of gratitude. Better known as Booker T. of Booker T. & the M.G.'s, Mr. Jones is the father of the rock-soul organ. His swaggering riffs in the 1960s inspired the keyboard sound now ubiquitous on shows like "Saturday Night Live" and "The Late Show with David Letterman."
Surprisingly soft-spoken, Mr. Jones has just released "The Road From Memphis," a rousing, funky CD that looks back at his life's emotional high points. On the album, he's backed by The Roots—the "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon" house band.
Between 1961 and 1971, Mr. Jones and the M.G.'s recorded under their name and on hundreds of singles by Stax artists such as Otis Redding and Wilson Pickett. Last week, in an interview from his Los Angeles home, Mr. Jones. 66 years old, talked about the album, the organist who influenced him most and Lou Reed.
The Wall Street Journal: Could you shave when you began recording?
Mr. Jones: [Laughs] No. I was in the 10th grade in 1959 when I played baritone sax on "Cause I Love You," by Carla Thomas and her father Rufus. I had a scary ability to play almost any instrument I picked up. I used to hang around Satellite Records in Memphis after my paper route. Satellite became Stax in 1961.
How did you become an organist?
My mother played piano and gave me a tonal feeling for music. When I was 9 years old, I took piano lessons with Elmertha Cole, who had a Hammond B-3 in the corner of her dining room. One day I looked under the cover and saw two keyboards. I couldn't believe it.
How many instruments can you play?
Pretty much all of them, including flute, oboe, clarinet, saxophone and trombone. I started on the drums in fourth grade, moved to the ukulele at age 10 and then on to the guitar.
Did you have a childhood?
Not like most kids. I loved music so much I practiced all those instruments every day after school. As I got older, I concentrated on the guitar and Hammond B-3. Every chance I'd get, I'd go hear jazz and R&B organists like Jack McDuff and Blind Oscar on Beale Street.
When did you start the M.G.'s?
In 1961 I put together a quartet. Two of us were black and two were white. We were tight and loved the same music. People who heard the records didn't know what we were and didn't care. Stax soon started using us behind almost all of its artists.
What does the "M.G's" part of the band's name mean?
In 1961, the band was at Stax trying to come up with a name. Out through the window we could see producer-engineer Chips Moman doing tricks with his new red MG sports car. One of the guys suggested we call ourselves the M.G.'s.
What's the meaning of the M.G.'s biggest hit, "Green Onions?"
I came up with the riff in early 1962 while playing the piano over at my mom's house. When our bassist Lewie Steinberg heard it on organ, he said it was so funky it smelled like onions. Jiving around, one of the other guys said "green onions" for emphasis.
And "Born Under a Bad Sign?"
I wrote that song sitting in my den late at night with lyricist William Bell in 1966. I was trying to come up with something for guitarist Albert King. I didn't want to wake my wife, so I played a melody line softly and William said, "Born under a bad sign." Cream recorded it in 1968.
What made your organ sound different?
It's in the settings. The Hammond B-3 has drawbars that you slide in and out to alter the personality of the instrument's sound. I turned off the tremolo, giving it a harder, take-charge sound. Ray Charles on "Genius + Soul = Jazz" in 1961 gave me the idea. Ray used a thinner, higher-pitched tone, which sounded cool, like special effects.
Could you call the new CD a valentine to Memphis?
Memphis gave me so much, and my life is so rich as a result. The city needs to be recognized for its enormous contribution to music. My daughter Liv wrote the lyrics for the song, "Representing Memphis." There's a message in there: "Memphis, don't put yourself down." The song is about the South Side, the food and the city's great smells.
Who is the song "The Vamp" about?
The Vamp was an English lesbian we befriended in London during the M.G.'s 1967 U.K. tour. One night I tried to dance with her girlfriend, and she decked me. What a tour that was. The Beatles sent limos to the airport for us.
Whose idea was it to use Lou Reed on "The Bronx?"
Mine. We first met 20 years ago in New York. I knew he was a fan, so I called him and asked if he'd sing on the song. But first Lou wanted to hear the lyrics on the phone, which I didn't mind. Hey, he's the originator of the rock-star paradigm. He was duly cantankerous and cooperative.
Do you consider yourself a guitarist or organist?
The truth is I started as a guitarist. The reason I wound up on the Hammond is that Satellite needed someone to play it, and I was there hanging around after school. But when I compose a melody, I imagine I'm playing the guitar. Then I fill in the gaps with the organ. The guitar is my heart but the organ is my speaking voice.
https://www.rockhall.com/inductees/booker-t-and-mgs
Booker T. and the M.G.'s
INDUCTED: 1992
Category: Performers
Members:
- Steve Cropper
- Booker T. Jones
- Billy Lee Riley
- Donald Dunn
- Al Jr. Jackson
- Lewis Steinberg
The groovy forefathers of Southern soul.
With their interracial lineup and experience playing with such icons as Otis Redding, the Staple Singers and Aretha Franklin, Book T and the M.G.’s have made history in more ways than one.
From left to right: Booker T. Jones, Al Jackson, Jr., Steve Cropper, Donald "Duck" Dunn PHOTO: Courtesy of the Rock Hall Library and Archive
Biography
booker30062_cs.jpg Event on 11/23/04 in San Francisco. Soul great Booker T. Jones has gone back to school to learn digital recording. He is taking classes with two young amateur musician-engineers, Nick Perez, 21 (close cropped hair), and Jonathan Schickman, 25 (with beard). The course is taught by Greg Gordon (wearing glasses), co-owner of Pyramind Studios, where classes are held. Pyramind Studios is in SF. Chris Stewart / The Chronicle
Three students squeeze together in the darkened San Francisco recording studio, looks of intense concentration on their faces. It's a school for digital recording, and they are running an exercise on their own. Two are young amateurs. The third is soul great Booker T. Jones.
He missed class one day last month because he flew down to Los Angeles to produce Willie Nelson singing John Lennon's "Imagine" for an Amnesty International CD. When he returned, his classmates Jonathan Schickman, 23, and Nick Perez, 21, were ahead of him on class work. He missed class one day last month because he flew down to Los Angeles to produce Willie Nelson
It's challenging when you're behind," said Jones, 60, long ago inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as leader of Booker T. and the MGs, the music's greatest instrumental group.
Technology in recording studios has changed over the past 10 years, leaving many veterans like Jones in the dust but creating opportunities for newcomers like Schickman and Perez.
"I outlived the recording medium I was brought up with," said Jones, who began recording as a 16-year-old 10th-grader in 1960 at Stax/Volt studios in Memphis. He scored his first national hit two years later, "Green Onions."
A number of well-known professional musicians, who have installed Pro Tools digital recording systems in their studios, have received private consultations from instructors at Pyramind, said co-owner Matt Donner. But no one has ever before showed up for courses at the studios on Folsom Street, South of Market. Greg Gordon, Donner's partner, taking roll the first day, actually asked out loud "not the Booker T. Jones?"
Jones took the first eight-week program with more than a dozen other students. But the second-level course is a hands-on intensive routine with only the three of them sharing the equipment. Instructor Gordon runs through an endless list of bewildering details in his two-hour lecture/demonstration before leaving the three students on their own to figure out how to work their way through the complicated exercise in the Pro Tools instruction manual. Perez operates the board, while Schickman and Jones try to figure out what to do next.
"I don't know if I'm ever going to be a real operator," said Jones. "But I need to know what a real operator does. If I want to stay in the music business, I need to know this. How can I be the guy in charge and not understand this stuff?"
He could confidently work his way around tape recording (Pro Tools records to a computer drive). He knew how to run analog recording consoles -- they call the digital counterpart a control surface -- and he could edit tapes with razor blades. He first ran across digital recording a number of years ago, watching a Nashville record producer do some edits in the studio. But working with fellow old-timers Willie Nelson and Neil Young has not required Booker to move into the digital domain.
He sold his own analog recording equipment ("basically gave it away," he said) several years ago and closed the small studio he maintained at Berkeley's Fantasy Records, which quickly installed Pro Tools equipment in his vacated room.
Pyramind is one several schools in the Bay Area offering certification on Pro Tools, which was invented by the Daly City company Digidesign. Gordon and Donner folded their South of Market production business into an existing Folsom Street studio and slowly began to convert their part of the operation to a training facility. Gordon even took entrepreneur classes at a business school around the corner. They still do business as a recording studio, but Donner said the school now accounts for as much as 80 percent of their business.
With state universities and colleges perennially strapped for cash, only private schools like Pyramind can afford the latest equipment or find the instructors up to speed on the gear. In fact, Jones originally enrolled in the Pro Tools classes at Pyramind through the extension program at San Francisco State University, which had an arrangement with the studio. He plans to take his next level of training at a more intensive program offered by San Jose's Future Rhythm, six days of eight-hour classes at a private training facility with ties to Foothill College.
Jones flew down to Los Angeles last month and supervised a Pro Tools session with Nelson at Henson Studios, formerly A&M. "All their analog machines were out in the hall," he said. Satisfied that he was now qualified to produce the session, Jones ran everything through analog pre-amps in front of the Pro Tools setup to give the sound more warmth. He expressed great pleasure with the results.
"It sounds as good as 'Stardust,' " said Jones, who produced three landmark albums with the great country singer after the two met when they lived in the same Malibu apartment building.
As organist with Booker T. and the MGs, Jones not only put a procession of R&B instrumentals on the charts starting when he was still in high school, but he played a crucial role in the house band at Memphis' Stax/Volt label, where he made classic soul records with Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett, Sam and Dave, and many more. His compositions include "Born Under a Bad Sign," recorded by Albert King and now a blues standard.
Jones spent several years commuting from session work in Memphis to his studies at Indiana University, where he graduated with a music degree. He practically grew up in the recording studio.
He left Memphis and moved to California in 1971, where he not only produced Nelson's immensely successful '70s albums, but also supervised the classic 1971 debut album by soul singer Bill Withers featuring the hits "Ain't No Sunshine" and "Lean On Me." He recorded Booker T. Jones solo albums and played sessions with Carlos Santana, John Fogerty, Bob Dylan and others.
The surviving MGs reunited in the early '90s and they served as house band for the 1992 all-star Bob Dylan tribute at Madison Square Garden. Neil Young used Booker T. and the MGs as backup band for his 1993 tour, and brought Jones onboard the 2002 Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young tour as musical director. Young also has used Jones extensively on recording sessions.
The re-formed MGs still play occasional dates. Jones went back to Memphis last month after finishing the Nelson session in Los Angeles to receive an honor from the University of Memphis and play a rare hometown concert with MGs guitarist Steve Cropper and bassist Donald "Duck" Dunn at the new Pyramid Arena, home of basketball's Memphis Grizzlies. "I saw more people I knew than I knew what to do about," said Jones. "It just didn't stop."
He and his wife, Nan, moved to the Bay Area more than 12 years ago. They live in Tiburon, where they raised three children, two still in high school, the oldest attending UCLA. At a surprise birthday party she threw for her husband at their comfortable home last month, there wasn't a single rock star or show business mogul in attendance, although a number of people had children who played sports with the Jones kids.
He takes the ferry and rides Muni to classes, dragging an attache case on wheels. At Pyramind, he puts on glasses and pulls open a binder. As Pro Tools instructor Gordon goes through the detail of automation and sub-mix control groups, Jones pays close attention and takes careful notes. Then Jones and his two classmates flub and flounder their way through a Pro Tools mix.
Belonging to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame doesn't help him here. "My experience doesn't mean a whole lot," he said. "Trying to learn all this stuff is a great leveler. Greg's tried to tell them a little and I've told them a few stories, but we concentrate on learning this."
After the bass and most of the drums are mixed, Jones takes his turn at the controls. Schickman hovers over his shoulder and Perez scoots up a chair. Jones finishes the drums and mixes the keyboard parts. All three agree the mix is done and pack up their bags for the day.
Jones puts on his coat and straps his bag to its stroller. He blinks at the afternoon sun on the sidewalk outside the studio and heads off to the bus stop, just another student happy to be out of school and on his way home.
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Booker T Jones: The king of Stax picks up his axe
With his band the MGs, Booker T was the resident genius at one of America's great soul labels. Now, with a bit of help from Neil Young, he's turning off his organ and enrolling in the school of rock
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The footage still exists, sometimes in colour, sometimes
black-and-white – always grainy. Sometimes the downstage focus is Otis
Redding, stamping both his feet like a giant toddler in the effort to
shake his soul down. Sometimes it's Sam and Dave, bouncing around in a
spume of masculine sweat. There is even film of just the four of them,
the MGs, in smart grey suits, clustering and bobbing while they do their
thing. The footage is grainy but the sound is always tight, punchy,
swinging, elegant, unembroidered. Soulful. And always Booker T Jones –
their leader – looks strangely detached, smiling faintly off to one
side, as if all the tumult going on around him has nothing to do with
him at all, thank you. He just happens to be there at the time, sitting
buttoned up and tidy at his organ...
The MGs (abbreviated from the Memphis Group) were the Stax house band throughout the 1960s, the elegant, swinging, punchy, ultra-tight rhythm unit which brought shape and structure to the seething music that emerged from Stax's Memphis home in the decade which also gave the world – well, the UK – the Mod and his buttoned-down style imperatives. Along with the Funk Brothers at Motown and the Muscle Shoals house band in Alabama, Booker T and the MGs were the blue-chip building contractors of soul music. It was they who pored over the plans, rolled up their sleeves and made the edifice stand.
So, given all that shapeliness and tightness, it is disarming to hear Booker T Jones's new album, Potato Hole. He cut it last September for the independent Anti label (also home of Tom Waits) after hiring an unexpected parcel of labourers to carry the musical hod. Neil Young plays incredibly loud guitar on the thing; rhythmic drive comes courtesy of the Drive-By Truckers, a hairy Southern rock band who number a further three guitarists in their ranks. Potato Hole is an almighty racket.
"My new incarnation," says the man who cooked "Green Onions" so fastidiously in 1962, "the way I have reinvented myself over the past 18 to 20 months, is as an in-your-face Southern bluesman who is playing rock – and that's coming from my heart." Booker T Jones levels his impassive features, blinks his heavy lids and takes a sip of water. He is the most diffident in-your-face Southern bluesman you could ever imagine.
A "potato hole" is a depository, a cache for secret food supplies dug into the dirt floor of a slave shelter in the Old South. "But my potato hole... well, we're not hiding what we've got in there. For me," says Jones, "my potato hole is the place I have deposited my musical treasures for safe keeping. The things you won't have seen. My little candies. You can go and get them in there, and so can I..."
The inference one is supposed to draw from all of this is that Booker T has always been an in-your-face Southern bluesman, it's just that we've never had the chance to peek into the hole before.
But why the Truckers? "The main qualification," he says, "is that they're an in-your-face, blues-based Southern rock band. They strum. They pick. They're from Georgia. And that's where you have to go to get that quality. Even more importantly, the Truckers were influenced by both me and Neil Young." This is said matter-of-factly, as if pointing out that the benefit his glass of water is bringing to his body is due to the water's wetness. "And the way it worked was just beautiful. They gave themselves over to me for that week. They didn't hold themselves back. They just allowed me to lay my ideas on 'em. There was no hint of an attitude, ever..."
Jones is an alumnus of Booker T Washington High School in Memphis, as were more than a few of the brightest stars of Memphis musical history. There are Booker T Washington High Schools all over the South, named for the slavery-born educator, writer and orator who emerged as a major, but not radical, leader of the African-American community towards the end of the 19th century. The schools follow what we would call the comprehensive model. Booker T Jones's dad taught math at the Memphis institution and when Jones Junior finally got there at the age of 14, "it was like coming home".
"The first thing that happened to me at the school was this incredible marching band, led by Mr McDaniels." Jones always name-checks everyone. It is his policy. "Plus they had a great combo – it was the first time I'd ever heard a combo play. And they had a fantastic band room stocked with instruments and a truly open-door policy. You could walk in any time and pick up an instrument and learn it. That policy extended to the music director lending [Stax writer and producer] David Porter his car to take me to Stax the first time I went there. The place had a spirit and a pride that was all to do with music. If you were a Washingtonian, it meant you had to do things to a certain level of excellence."
Jones has gravitas by the shovel. He is one of those musicians who sees being a musician not as a career path, but as a social tradition, in which musicians form an unbroken chain of accomplishment and self-improvement. Does he have heroes? You bet he does. And he thinks about what having heroes means.
"I don't know if heroes can ever live up to the reason for having
them," he says, presumably not wishing to load them with the additional
burden of having to achieve personal perfection. "But I do think that,
if possible, you should play music only for the sake of playing music."
Ray Charles tops his list. "I always believed that it was true, completely for real, whatever Ray was doing," he says slowly. "There are some people, like me, who go to a teacher and ask: how do you do this? I had a great organ teacher. She said, 'Do it like this' on a daily basis and in due course the organ became the instrument I was known for. But there are people who come on to this earth and nobody shows 'em anything and they just know how to do it. That thing is channelled through these guys. And coming from a journeyman's perspective, that's what makes these guys great.
"Ray was one of them, and so is Stevie Wonder. His album Innervisions is an example of a musician having something to offer more than the music; when you sense he's touching something a little bit beyond – when there's something there that is a little bit more than meets the eye. He is just amazing. Maybe it's something to do with his and Ray's blindness – but it all goes into the music."
Jones is impassive as any buddha at a dining table at a members' club in Soho. The white tablecloth throws light into his eyes.
"Stevie came to an MGs gig at the Bottom Line in New York one time. That would have been in the late 1960s. He was sitting over there at the bar..." You can tell Booker T is seeing Stevie now. But words fail him. "Uh... he just picks up on everything – it's like he's got tentacles out." He waves the memory away.
As formative an influence as Ray Charles, but at a much less metaphysical level, was Bill Doggett, the band leader/organist who had a mighty R&B hit in 1956 with "Honky Tonk". "Honky Tonk" is such a formal archetype of choogling greasy locomotion that it ought to come stamped with stern warnings from the Parody Police, as well as the Health Inspectorate. You can hear the links to the MGs, but the MGs come off as sleek R&B modernists by comparison. "After hearing Ray Charles, this was just too much. I just wanted to imitate it. We're talking hero here."
A less obvious hero is Gil Evans, the august band leader and arranger who shaped the cloud formations surrounding Miles Davis on Sketches of Spain and Miles Ahead, among others. "Talk about being out of the box," says Jones, in bandleader mode. "The preparation it must have taken to work both musically and non-musically with Miles Davis, and to accomplish what he did – I have great appreciation for it. He's a musical painter. He does with music what painters do with brushes... textures, colours, using instruments so that they can reach your sense of beauty."
Then there's the guitar, of which Booker T is mightily fond. You see, this shining light of the Booker T Washington High School band room is an authentic multi-instrumentalist. He has done the spade work on flute, clarinet, trombone, oboe, baritone sax, alto sax, soprano sax, several horns and guitar as well as organ. He wrote Potato Hole on the stringed instrument and he wields his axe all over the album alongside Neil Young and the three Truckers. "I became a keyboardist by default, because 'Green Onions' was a hit. But in my heart and soul I was always a guitarist." His guitar heroes are Wes Montgomery, Neil Young, Jimi Hendrix and... Chet Atkins.
Chet Atkins? The long-faced country picker, frowning on a high stool underneath a big fat Gretsch strung with telegraph poles?
"Yup. He truly made my heart jump."
Booker T is going down to New Orleans at some point in the coming weeks. He's 65 now. He's not going for the view, nor the gumbo. He is going to donate all the unplayed musical instruments in his garage to local schools. "When I was 12, 13 or 14, if those instruments hadn't been available to me for free, I wouldn't be sitting here today. And schools just don't have the programmes any more to pay for the instruments. So the kids need 'em free. They're all just sitting in my garage and that ain't right."
The spirit of the potato hole is all about survival.
'Potato Hole' is out now on Anti records
Booker T Jones: 'Otis Redding seemed possessed. We just went along with it'
The great American organ player on famous collaborators, the tragedies
that have befallen his band, and leading a multiracial group in a
segregated society
Booker T Jones: 'Sound the alarm, I'm on fire.' Photograph: Eamonn Mccabe for the Guardian
Hi, Booker. How's it going?
I'm good. I'm at the Kenilworth Hotel in London.
Can you remember your first visit to the UK?
It would have been for the Stax-Volt tour, with Otis Redding, Sam and Dave, Eddie Floyd and Carla Thomas (1).
Donald "Duck" Dunn of your group the M.G.'s described the
tour as "the most impressive thing I've ever done in my life". What made
it so good?
Like me, he was a southern boy from a not so well-to-do neighbourhood in Memphis, Tennessee, and to come to London at all was a feat. The tour itself turned out to be extraordinary, everything about it.
Who was your most surprising fan?
Carla said the Beatles were there in a club we hung out in. I don't remember meeting them - those guys looked the same to me.
Could you not tell John Lennon from Ringo?
I wasn't looking for them, actually.
You recreated the whole of side two of Abbey Road, didn't you? (2)
I did, out of absolute admiration.
When was the last time you had to Sound the Alarm? (3)
[Mildly irritated] It's Sound the Alarm because Booker T has been simmering for years and now Booker T is hot, boiling over: sound the alarm, I'm on fire.
Ah, OK. And you're back on Stax. Is it based in the same building, with the same staff?
It means the world to me. It's my home. Coming full circle and being on a label that I helped start. I used to live two blocks away and it defined my life. Now it's in Beverly Hills, with different people, but they still have the Stax feeling.
Is anybody left from the 60s?
Booker T.
Is it true you were at school in Memphis with Isaac Hayes and Maurice White of Earth, Wind & Fire?
Maurice was my classmate and Isaac and I were friends. Isaac picked up a lot of his piano [ideas] from standing behind me. Maurice was my first drummer at high school. My mom used to make sandwiches for him. David Porter [later Hayes's writing partner] also went to school there. It was a fertile ground.
The M.G.'s were the Stax house band. How did they compare with the other house bands – Motown's Funk Brothers, Philly's MFSB and the Muscle Shoals sessioneers – in terms of proficiency and funkiness?
Weeell … We were never mistaken for the Motown group and they were never mistaken for us. We were a lot simpler than them; they had strings and were more pop-sounding. The Muscle Shoals group we were mistaken for a couple of times because our sound was so close.
To bring up Wilson Pickett, did you spend much time with him in the midnight hour?
[Humouring the interviewer] He [Pickett] wrote that with Steve [Cropper, guitarist] and Steve pretty much produced it with Wilson and established a new sound there.
It was 50 years ago this month that you reached the top three for the first time with Green Onions. How did you celebrate?
I don't remember celebrating. I was at Indiana University at the time (4), which was a challenge. The Green Onions thing didn't seem real, and it could have been a fluke as far as we knew.
How often do you find yourself in a bar and they ask you to play the keyboard riff on the piano?
Pretty much every time. How often do I oblige? Most every time! [Laughs]
How instrumental – no pun intended – was the track in the birth of funk?
That's a good question. It was such an original sound. I think it was very instrumental in the birth of the Memphis sound. I think funk music would have happened without it, though.
In the 80s it seemed as though every American movie featured a Stax or Motown track. Which provided the fattest royalty cheque?
Probably Green Onions in American Graffiti.
Is it true that you wrote Time Is Tight while watching Paris burn during the 1968 student riots?
No. It happened before the riots. I was in northern Paris, writing music for the movie Uptight. The Sorbonne uprising was a complete surprise to me and everyone else. I had trouble getting back to my hotel.
Did you join in?
No. I was completely disabled (5). I had a cast from my upper hip down to my toes and all the time I was in Paris I couldn't walk. I had crutches and a wheelchair. Besides, I wasn't that much of a maverick. I would be now, probably, but not then.
Were the M.G.'s the first racially integrated band, and as such an influence on Sly and the Family Stone?
As far as I know, we were, although I don't know if we had any influence on Sly.
Did it cause problems with booking gigs?
Not with booking gigs, but it caused problems with travel. The hotels and restaurants were segregated so we had to be creative when it came to getting food, and staying overnight we had to sneak in the back door of hotels. Either that or not stay.
So one half of the band would have been in a different hotel to the other half?
No, all the hotels were segregated, so either we [Booker T and drummer Al Jackson Jr] would be staying illegally in a white hotel or they [guitarist Cropper and bassist Lewie Steinberg] would be surreptitiously staying in a black hotel.
Was that annoying, or did you just accept it?
We just accepted it. It was the 60s, although it was about to change pretty soon.
At the 1967 Monterey Pop festival, is it true you wore matching chartreuse suits?
Yeah [laughs]. That was a carry-over from our UK tour where we wore mohair suits.
Did you feel estranged from the counterculture?
Yes, we were estranged from it. That was a new scene and the question that night [at Monterey] was, would they accept us? And they did.
Can you remember the first time you met Otis Redding?
Uh-huh. The beginning of the meeting was commonplace because it was just a cursory "hello" – he was carrying in luggage for the band he was working for, just a gopher, really. Then afterwards he asked to sing and once he started to sing our relationship changed.
Was he up there with Elvis and Sinatra?
I would have to say, in terms of being a unique individual, yes. He was striking. But he was a very unassuming person.
What was it like recording Otis Blue in 36 hours? Intense?
It was, but he [Redding] seemed to be possessed at that time. Nobody was quite sure what was going on with him. He just seemed to be in a hurry. Not a hurry – obsessed. And we didn't understand why. We just went along with it. If he wanted to go for 24 hours we just did it.
Were those sessions coffee-fuelled, or anything more illegal?
Oh no, Otis wasn't doing drugs. I never saw him smoke marijuana, nothing. He didn't do it around me, anyway.
How about the M.G.'s? Did you indulge? Or were you clean cut?
I was, yeah. Until I moved to California [laughs].
Did you join the love-in crowd?
A little bit. To some extent. Not too much. I couldn't have the health I have now if I had done what everybody else was doing.
How deeply were you affected by the murder of Al Jackson, in 1975? (6)
I was in Los Angeles and I walked up to my father's house at maybe four or five in the afternoon. He normally on a warm summer day would keep the front door open and the screen door closed. The TV was situated so that you could see it from the street. And as I was walking up to his door I saw my name on the TV screen, and of course I continued to walk. And that's how the story was revealed to me. I opened the screen door and my mom was watching it on TV. That's when I learned of his death.
It must have been quite a shock.
It was amazing, unbelievable, a strange sequence of events. When he came to California previous to the shooting that killed him he'd also been shot. He showed me the bullet wound on his chest, which he survived.
Courtesy his estranged wife, Barbara?
Yeah.
And you'd only just reformed the M.G.'s?
It seemed like it had just been a couple of weeks that he had been shot by her before this happened. It wasn't long.
Do you think the M.G.'s' history was marred by tragedy?
Oh, absolutely. Otis's death, Al's death – they couldn't have taken more main characters than those.
If they hadn't died, would the M.G.'s and Stax have prospered throughout the 70s and 80s?
Looking back I can say that there would have been hiccups, even with them. In terms of the music business interfering in Stax's progress. I don't think it would have been as smooth as it looks like it might have been.
You've worked with everyone from Willie Nelson to Bob Dylan and Neil Young. What were they like?
Each situation was different. Bob was my neighbour in Malibu and he would come to my studio. Willie was a neighbour, too – he had the apartment underneath mine – and we'd hang out. But Neil and I met working on the Bob Dylan tribute concert at Madison Square Garden. He was a Booker T and Stax fan, he liked funk, so it was a good marriage.
You don't normally associate Neil Young with funk. Folk, yes.
Yeah, but he started in funk bands up in Toronto (7).
Did you ever have to reprimand them for getting out of line in the studio?
Wow. Let me think about that. Of course if that happened I wouldn't reprimand anybody. That's not my nature. I guess I've been fortunate in that the people I've worked with haven't had egos and the situations haven't gotten out of hand.
Did Stax really turn down Aretha but agree to do an album with Lena Zavaroni? (8)
Who's Lena Zavaroni?
She was an 11-year-old X-Factor-style TV pop contest winner with a big voice.
Either that's something I've blocked out of my memory or I wasn't involved. I can't tell you.
Have you blocked many things out of your memory over the years?
It wouldn't be blocked out of my memory if I could tell you, would it?
I'm fascinated with language, especially English. I'm a nerd when it comes to words.
Do you have a favourite?
No, but one of my father's favourites was "auspicious".
You've also said: "Without art, life is meaningless." Surely
even the greatest Van Gogh isn't worth a slap-up meal when you're
starving.
You say Van Gogh, but it could be any piece of beautiful art: people just stand there and stare at it. Why are they lingering? Even a song played at a wedding is a piece of art. It colours our lives.
What's your greatest artistic achievement?
I would have to say Time is Tight.
Because of the memories?
Because of the simplicity of the melody. It's one of the hardest things to do, to write a melody that people don't forget.
Is it worth hanging on a gallery wall?
Well, that would be egotistical to say that. I'm just gratified I had something to do with creating it.
Footnotes
(1) Back to article The leading lights of Stax toured England and France in 1967.
(2) Back to article 1970's McLemore album comprised instrumental versions of Golden Slumbers et al.
(3) Back to article Booker T Jones's 10th solo album, Sound the Alarm, is out now on the revived Stax label.
(4) Back to article He studied classical music composition.
(5) Back to article
He'd had surgery to replace the bone in his knee following
deterioration after years of rubbing against the wooden bar underneath
his Hammond organ.
(6) Back to article
In July 1975, his estranged wife Barbara had shot him in the chest, but
he survived. Three months later, he was shot dead at his home by
intruders.
(7) Back to article In the mid-60s Young was in the Mynah Birds with Rick "Superfreak" James.
(8) Back to article The album Ma! He's Making Eyes At Me by the Opportunity Knocks star was released by Stax in 1974.
The Booker T Jones interview
by Jon Wilks
Everyone
knows Booker T Jones, though not everyone realises it. Despite being
one of the most influential musicians of the last half century, he is
best known as a session man and songwriter, plying his trade in the
background, producing tunes that have been in the foreground more times
than you could ever recall.
Booker T was there when you began raiding your parents’ vinyl collection in your teens, blazing loud behind Wilson Pickett on ‘In the Midnight Hour’. He was there when you fumbled around on the dance floor, wracking up the emotion as Otis hammered home ‘Try a Little Tenderness’
(yes, that’s him on keyboards in the video). Heck, he was even there
when you learnt what soul music meant, defining a genre on the seminal
Sam & Dave track, ‘Soul Man’
(although not at his usual Hammond B3, as we shall see). As a member of
the MG’s, the house band at hit-producing Stax Records, Booker T pumped
out classic upon classic throughout the ’60s and ’70s, and in their
downtime the band recorded eternal slices of soulful funk — you probably
know and adore ‘Green Onions’, ‘Hip Hug Her’ and ‘Soul Limbo’ (the latter better known to Brits as ‘Test Match Special’).
The
man himself is taller than expected (early footage makes him look so
boyish, you’d almost think he was five foot nothing), and has the
manners of a southern gent well into his sixties. He’s almost apologetic
when I wonder aloud how I might go about asking questions that he
hasn’t been asked before, and he’s unfailingly polite in discussing the
music that made him famous 50 years ago, a subject he must have to deal
with on a daily basis. In more recent years, Booker T Jones has been in
the studio with the likes of Drive By Truckers and The Roots, laying
down two of the most acclaimed albums of his long career, Potato Hole (2009) and The Road to Memphis(2011), and it’s with these recordings fresh in his mind that we sit down in a quiet room beneath Blue Note Tokyo to discuss a career that has, even in some small way, affected most of us.
There
can’t be many artists who pick up a Lifetime Achievement Grammy [in
2007] and then go on to make two of the most acclaimed albums of their
career. What happened there?
I think I would’ve wanted to record [Potato Hole] had I not gotten that award. It’s always been there — the spark never went out. Fortunately it never left. I shut myself down at night, as far as imagining music and creating new songs and themes. I have a method of shutting myself down so I can live in the normal world.
What is your method?
I
meditate and I work on absolutely controlling my mind. It’s totally
impossible to be a creative musician in the real world — it just doesn’t
make any sense at all. You need to know where your car is! You can’t
write down a melody when you’re in Sears with your kid. It’s just
totally impractical. So you have to be able to create when it’s the
correct time to create. You have to somehow be able to control your mind
and corral those musings. You have to be able to remember, have a hell
of a memory, or some way of making it come at an opportune time.
You’re a rarity amongst 1960s musicians in that you can actually write music…
Yeah, I scribble. I have a little moleskin notebook with a stave on it that I try to jot notes down on. More recently, I have my iPad, and I can make notes on that. I keep a little Roland recorder, and that makes it easy. But if you’re truly prolific, you have to come up with a discipline whereby maybe you’re the only one who’s going to experience this idea, so you have to have the confidence and discipline to wait for the next one. That’s the kind of process I go through.
You’ve
been on thousands of sessions, from stuff specifically with the MG’s to
classics like ‘Soul Man’. Were they just work? Are there any sessions
that stand out for you?
Well the process of getting there and doing them was just like work, just the same as being a street cleaner or anything — you get there at a certain time, you have your materials and you’re ready to go. But, you know, because it’s music there’s always the potential for a special thing to happen. And there were many, many special moments that happened. So, no, it wasn’t just work in that respect. It was very pleasurable. It was a real privilege to do that and to be able to make a living doing that.
But,
for example, with a track like ‘Soul Man’, are you still able to put
yourself in that session again, or do the vast number of sessions merge
together in your memory?
Yeah, well, for me ‘Soul Man’ was just tambourine. That’s the only thing I played on that song. (Laughs) I was listening to them create the whole thing, kinda standing in the back of the room by the door, and they felt they needed a little pop for the backbeat. So I walked in with the tambourine and went over to one of the drum mics and played a mallet on a tambourine. And that’s all I did with that.
But still, what a track to have played tambourine on!
Well, thanks. Yeah.
To
bring it forward a little, how did you go about picking bands like the
Drive By Truckers and The Roots to play on your last two albums?
Drive By Truckers are a southern soul-rock band, but I was mostly enticed by the fact that they have been faithful to the three guitars. For the particular music that I was writing at that time, they were the band who most personified the sound that I wanted. But it had to be more than just the instrumentation. The people were wonderful. The people gave themselves over to my music, and that’s what made it happen. It was a great human experience working with them. And that’s just a chance you take: you never know what’s going to happen there. But they brought food, they brought their entire selves, each and every one of them, and they were dedicated. And that’s why that music turned out the way it did.
And with The Roots?
The Roots was a similar experience, but this was New York City and these were people who have worked with some of the best artists to come through the city. They work quickly, they are extremely talented, but they had a deep respect for the music I had made in the past. Actually, I think they were students in a lot of ways. So this was an opportunity to do some soul music with a hip hop band that actually used traditional instruments, which is a rare thing. I don’t know of any other band that does that. So, once again, it was good fortune. I had my eye on them even before any of this happened. I have to give a lot of credit to Jimmy Fallon, who is just a big music fan. He wanted it to happen. But the expertise — the chops, as musicians like to call a musician’s ability to play — was over the top. Questlove’s drumming, Owen Biddle’s bass playing, Captain Kirk’s guitar playing were just what I needed at that time.
Have there been instances in the past when tracks of yours have been sampled into hip hop in a way that has impressed you?
You know, that has many, many times been a mind-opening experience for me, the latest instance being Kanye West and Jay-Z doing Otis’s ‘Try a Little Tenderness’, which was a track we recorded just before we went to England. That little walk up thing that they used — I would never have considered it in the way they did. Hip hop music turns me on in a way that no other music does. The creativity and the imagination is surprising to me — it’s great! Yes, that happens very often. I’ll hear a song I conceived one way and they use it in a different way because they have the use of the technology. It’s an eye opener.
When
you first heard samples coming into music, perhaps back in the early to
mid-’80s, was that something you were open to or were you initially
standoffish about it?
I was open to it. It was a little strange for me at first, and I wasn’t sure what to make of it, but they quickly got it together business-wise, which helps. But it’s being done by musicians and producers who give it a new twist. I mean, I remember when I first heard ‘Green Onions’ re-used, and it was cool!
How many times has that track been covered?
[Slowly, emphasising each word] I have no idea. A lot.
There’s an irony in that track’s history, as I understand it, in that your producer was far more into it than you were…
There was no producer. There was just unused studio time and four studio musicians left with a session that didn’t happen. We just had an open afternoon with nothing to do, so I just started playing that little riff that I’d been playing on piano, and I just tried it on the Hammond organ and it sounded like that, it sounded so cool. Actually, it was just a blues, but that little organ sounded so cool. It was what Ray Charles had used and it was something I had always had eyes for. So I took some lessons on a Hammond B3, and it was just providence, I guess. But there was no producer. Nobody saying, ‘hey, we’ve gotta record that song.’
Was it a one-take job?
I think so. I don’t remember.
Would you say it has become an albatross in some way? Artists are known for certain tracks, right? So how do you respond to it?
No, it hasn’t been that. You know, the business is so crazy, I don’t know if I’d be in the business if it wasn’t for ‘Green Onions’. I’m from Memphis, Tennesse, and Memphis would’ve been on the map without ‘Green Onions’… It’s hard to say. Everybody who gets into the industry from a small town has to have something of an albatross, I think, or how do you do it? It’s an impossible task! There weren’t no American Idol in 1962! But I love the song. I love to hear it and I love to play it. I don’t get tired of it.
But
can you fully comprehend the influence that it has had? I mean, you’re
talking to someone now who, at the age of 17, heard ‘Green Onions’ and
was prompted to delve into a new area of musical history, into the mod
culture…
The what culture?
The mod culture. Do you know about the mods? The UK? [Booker T looks like he’s listening to a raving loon] The 1960s?Quadrophenia…?
Ah, okay. Errm… yeah, I know…
I mean, I just wonder if you can comprehend how far that little track has travelled?
Okay, well that’s all good information. I’m glad you told me. I’m beginning to comprehend it. I’m just glad to have been involved. It’s amazing. Music is a powerful thing. It’s unbelievable.
How do you go about selecting your setlist when you have so many tracks to choose from?
That has become a battle. The more I live, the more music I become involved in; the more music I love and like, the more music I want to share with the audience. It’s been a discussion we’ve had since we’ve been here [in Tokyo], because I’m having trouble sticking to the setlist. I’ll get up there and I’ll look at people and I’ll start playing one thing or the other, and what I’m hearing in my mind and what I’m feeling isn’t the next song on the setlist. So I just go ahead and do what feels comfortable, and I’m off the list. But there’s so much music in my past that I really love and really want to share. I mean, I have songs that I recorded with Bob Dylan, Otis Redding, Albert King, Barbara Streisand. All this music has meaning to me, and I balance all this with the new music… and it’s just too much. There’s not enough time in the show to do what I want to do. So I try and get right into the moment and play what’s in my head.
You must have an incredibly tight band to follow you wherever you want to go.
Oh, they’re amazing. Amazing! I love those guys, and they’re willing to do that… they actually enjoy it. The other thing is, I have trouble sticking with playing songs in the same key. I was just dealing with that last night. We played ‘Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door’ in E, and I was fantasising about playing it in A. But they quickly know what to do; they know what key I’m playing it in and they play it in that key. So that’s fortunate.
Are you a strict band leader?
In those ways, yes I am. But the guys don’t complain about it too much. I give them the freedom to play what they want to play, it just has to be in the key that I dictate and the tempo that I dictate. But they can play what they want to play.
What’s the status of the MG’s at the moment?
We still play some. It’s been about a year since we played; last time was up in Rochester, near New York. Duck [Donald ‘Duck’ Dunn, bass player] has since had surgery on his hands. He has a hereditary problem with his hands — he, his brother and his father had the curling of the fingers — and it got progressively worse. But that wasn’t the main problem. The main problem was that we lost Al Jackson Jr [Stax drummer, shot dead at home after disturbing intruders in October 1975], who was a huge musical force for Booker T & the MG’s. That whole section of Memphis was influenced by him — record labels, all the clubs; the push was to get Al. Take ‘Let’s Stay Together’ — the beat on that, you couldn’t get that anywhere else other than Al Jackson. And that’s what I grew up on. That was the guy that was playing drums while I was learning to play bass at the Flamingo [legendary Memphis soul club]. It was more than a loss, and that’s what happened to Booker T & the MG’s. We’ve played with other great drummers but, not to take anything away from them, the essence of the band was created with him. But we’ve had some great times since then.
So the MG’s will ride again?
Yeah. Duck is starting to play again. His operation was successful, so that’s good. We’ll just wait and see. But as I’ve gotten older, I’ve taken so many restrictions off myself musically, and there are so many great musicians. My experience with the Truckers and Neil Young was unbelievable, as it was with Questlove and The Roots.
Who’s next then? Have you got a list?
No, no I don’t. I just try and follow this path that I’m on and it leads me to these people. It just kinda happens. I’m learning how to let it take over, just let it do that. Instead of trying to guide myself, I’m learning how to follow.
This interview was originally published on Time Out Tokyo.
The Okayplayer Interview: Booker T. Jones On the Future Of Soul
Posted by
Eddie "STATS"
2014
Tuesday, Booker T. Jones released his new album Sound The Alarm, his first album since the Roots collaboration The Road From Memphis
in 2011–and his first in decades to be recorded for his original label
Stax Records. Far from a nostalgic return to the famous Memphis Sound
that he helped to establish as Booker T & The MGs,
however, Sound The Alarm opens up whole new territories of soul for the
this pioneer to explore and enlists a who’s who of soul’s next
generation–including Anthony Hamilton, Estelle, Gary Clark, Jr., Mayer Hawthorne, Luke James and Vintage Trouble, not to mention some bona fide second generation soulcats like Kori Withers (Bill Withers‘ daughter) and Booker’s own son Ted Jones–to
give the album a youthful urgency to the unmistakable Booker T sound.
Looking over the tracklisting, its easy to imagine Booker as a sort of
Professor Charles Xavier of soul music, appearing mysteriously in the
lives of young people with extraordinary powers to recruit them for his
Academy For Gifted Soul Mutants. Speaking by phone, Okayplayer had the
chance to talk at length with Booker T–who gave generously of his time
and his game–to get the real life story of how he assembled this
incredible team of young talent around him; the best of soul music’s
next generation–and how they fit into the sound and his vision of this
powerful record. Get a taste of the barbecue by streaming the title
track (“Sound The Alarm” featuring Mayer Hawthorne, via OKP premiere)
while you read, then hit the link to purchase
Okayplayer: Looking at your career from the outside,
it seems like the previous album that you did with The Roots was sort
of a comeback moment. Does it feel like you’re into a second chapter of
your career?
Booker T: There was a hiatus, there was a period
when I was languishing, but now I’m awake again, I’m on fire, and the
music is burning inside me. I’m actually working with new people and old
people as well, I’m still working some with Steve Cropper, I’m still doing that music and a lot of occasions. We just had a concert at the White House, where we did songs with Queen Latifah, I had Eddie Floyd there, that music is still vibrant.
But I feel that Stax lost its way when it was purchased by the big
company in New York City, by Gulf & Western–the bigger companies buy
the record companies and the lawyers start to take over and look at the
money instead of the music. I think that kind of happened with Stax.
But me, being one of the original ones, like Cropper and Dunn, Al Jackson–one
of the original creators of the company, the music, and the vibe – we
were able to continue that, in its true essence, without considerations
for how many records we’re making, or how much money it was going to
make. So in that sense, its just kind of built into my musical soul, my
musical self.
OKP: I was sort of surprised to hear you say “old
and new people” because just looking at the tracklisting of the album,
it seems like a very young group of people that you’ve surrounded
yourself with…
Booker T: The focus is on new R&B. and I seem to
have attention from a new group of soul artists and fans that have
focused on me, like Mayer Hawthorne–who was introduced to be by Daryl Hall–and Anthony Hamilton, who are people I’ve made friends with over the recent years. And Estelle and the Avila Brothers.
So that’s a circle of friends that’s come around and the music has come
with it. It’s influenced my writing, and of course the recording.
OKP: Can you tell us the stories of how you linked up or recruited some of the collaborators on this album?
Booker T: Of course, well it’s great, it’s exciting
for me – it’s a combination of people, like I said that I’ve made as
friends since I was standing in line. I won 3 Grammys these past few
years, and each time I won one of those Grammys I was standing in line
in front of Anthony Hamilton. I looked around after the show, and
Anthony’d be standing there, and it happened a third time. And so I
said, We have to stop meeting like this! And you know it turned out
Anthony had wrote a song for me, for my album. It’s just a way I’ve been
following my life path, and it’s just been leading me to new young
players. For instance, I met Gary Clark, Jr. at
Cupertino, when I was doing a benefit for Apple up there–which was
basically a demo of my album–and he was playing downstairs. But I keep
talking about the old – if you listen to what I did with Gary, and with
my son [Ted Jones] that music comes right out of what I
was doing in the 60s, almost pre-Stax. It’s mixed right in there. It’s a
new blues/R&B mix, like the stuff I did with my son Ted. And Ted is
only 22, but we spend a lot of time together listening to guitar
players–and you know I mistook [his playing] once for Joe Bonamassa, who I played with over in England.
OKP: In the recording of the music, were you ever
riffing on or covering things the way that the some of the MGs
compositions would adapt material that was out there into an organ
cover?Booker T: Some more so, and some less. On “Father Son Blues,” there’s no variation at all on that song, from what I played at a club in Memphis in say, 1960. No variation at all. This is all influenced by Bobby Blue Bland blues from Texas, or B.B. King blues. This is how I made my 6 or 7 bucks a night, playing all night. On a song like, “Can’t Wait,” [featuring Estelle] I’m thinking, I want this score to be different. I want it to sound different. I want it to feel different. I want her voice to be soaring. This is like Stax, if she had some to Memphis and recorded with the group there after all these years have passed. It’s the whole gamut.
OKP: I’m curious about Sheila E.‘s involvement. What was that connection like, have you guys known each other for awhile?
Booker T: It was great. Well I had a connection with her family, because of her uncle Coke Escovedo, who I met when I was playing with Carlos Santana, we toured together. And there’s a whole, huge family and legacy and style that was sort of started by Mongo Santamaria and Tito Puente,
people who kind of congregated around the Oakland area where I lived
for a long time. Of course, my association with Carlos Santana through
me right into that, playing with Tito and Ria…and all those guys, the
band was just dynamic. Her family, those guys brought me into that, in
the 70s when I moved from Memphis out to California. Those were some of
the first people I met. And she’s one of them, and she plays like one of
them, she is one of them. And just to have her and her electricity, it
gives it that authenticity to that. Well I only got one song of that
genre on my album which is “66 Impala,” and I got Poncho Sanchez to
play on it. But its something that I’ve always loved, it’s always
influenced us in the 60s when we were doing the MGs, you know, and I was
a big Tito Puente fan and of course Mongo Santamaria when he came out
with “Watermelon Man.” We were never the same after that record. So
that’s what Sheila did, and her family, and they still do it. You know,
we talked about – at the studio it was great, talking about the old
times. And she felt close to me because I knew her family so well.
OKP: How about Estelle, how did that link up?
Booker T: That happened through the Avila Brothers.
I was an Estelle fan, you know, ‘cause when she did “American Boy,”
that new sound coming from Britain – that continually happens – I was
excited by it, and I’m excited about “Can’t Wait,” which we wrote for
her. Just the way she does melody, and her whole attitude, that’s a
contemporary edge there. And for me to have that on my record is really
fortunate.
OKP: Is there a difference in the approach that you
bring to soul music with this new kind of young crop, second or third
generation soul singers. Do they have a different approach or different
vibe that you had to adjust to? Or what was the feeling like in terms of
bridging that generation gap?
Booker T: Hmm. I have to say that I’m right there,
I’ve always sort of tried to be right there because I’ve pushed the
edge. I never wanted really to do the same thing twice in my career. And
I love the music with the different txtures and time signatures – that
edgy feeling, you know. So I guess they pick up on that, and they like
the idea of working with a legend for whatever reasons [laughs]. And of
course, I did have my period of you know, getting into the new
technology, the drum machines, the MPC – that whole idea of changing the
beats and sound of soul and R&B. I’m into it.
OKP: So would you say this is a continuation of that experimentation? Or is it back to a more organic sound?
Booker T: Well for Sound The Alarm, it’s
both. I have both. I have a lot of drum machines on the album. And I
have a lot of melodic experimentation. The public has proven and told us
that’s what they like and that’s what they want. They don’t want the
predictable anymore. And it pushes musicians to be experimental. But at
the same time, there’s a whole group of – there’s a whole segment of
people and kids who just love the predictability of a song like “Austin
City Blues.” So there’s both; music is so huge.
OKP: I’m curious, would you consider this as
compared with the previous album, which The Roots were very much
involved in. Would you consider this a continuation of what that
collaboration was about?
Booker T: No, this is a different approach. The
Roots were disciples of mine, they were hip-hop musicians who don’t use
drum machines. Working with them was sort of like working with a young
set of The Meters. It was a New Orleans feel, and kind
of a jazz, hip-hop feel. It was I think, an outgrowth of Memphis and New
Orleans that they continued in Philadelphia. But it was sort of like my
first album with The Drive-by Truckers, where I had a huge desire to do rock music and they sort of facilitated it. The Roots sort of did this with my ideas for The Road From Memphis. But this record, Sound The Alarm,
is a total departure from all that. Which is what I need to do right
now. For where I am spiritually, mentally and musically, it’s not that.
OKP: Would you say that you were more in the driver’s seat as a producer on this record?
Booker T: Yes. I’m at the center of this record. My
tentacles reached a long way this time because people – even the record
company and my manager, feel my need to be innovative and so I don’t
think anybody really felt any limits about what we were gonna do. There
were no limitations. I was happy about that, I just want that to
continue.
OKP: How did producing an album in 2013 feel compared to –you’re justifiably famous for some of your production work on Bill Withers‘ records, and other projects. Was that a departure from the way you’ve done things before?
Booker T: Yes, there’s a lot more flexibility now, a
lot more possibilities. A lot more people from different areas around
the world. Before, I was physically and musically sequestered inside the
studio, at Memphis or LA. I was restricted as far as how far the music
could go. Now that restriction is gone.
OKP: Do you mean physical restriction as in you can
take a mobile studio with a laptop or something with you when you
travel? Or what do you mean?
Booker T: Yeah, we collaborated over the internet,
and we collaborated physically, people flew in. And then the record
company wasn’t saying, “This record has to sound like this.” or it has
to be all instrumental. The record company just basically gave me a free
slate.
OKP: That leads me to wonder, would you say even
though this is a Stax record, is it a Memphis record–or is it kind of a
citizen of the world, so to speak?
Booker T: It’s a Memphis record, ‘cause I am still
rooted there, I am one of the original Memphis people. I was fortunate
enough to be born there, and to live two blocks away from a recording
studio. But people like me, that are born in Memphis and raised on the
Memphis music down on Beale Street get the gospel, and the blues, and
the country – that never leaves you. It stays the same. So it’s my
record. It is Memphis music. I think – I hope people can identify it, I
hope my essence comes through.
OKP: You can take Memphis with you wherever you go.
Booker T: I do, I do.
THE MUSIC OF BOOKER T. JONES: AN EXTENSIVE VIDEO OVERVIEW, A CROSS SECTION OF RECORDINGS, MUSICAL ANALYSIS AND COMMENTARY, PLUS VARIOUS INTERVIEWS WITH BOOKER T. JONES:
Booker T. Jones: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert
BOOKER T. JONES - TIME IS TIGHT
BBC Proms: Booker T Jones: Green Onions
Booker T & the M G 's - Green Onions (Original / HQ audio)
Booker T. & the M.G._s - All the Best (FULL ALBUM - BEST
Booker T & The MGs Time Is Tight 1969 Stereo
Booker T & The MG's - Hang Em' High (Instrumental) (1968)
1962 HITS ARCHIVE: Green Onions - Booker T. & the M.G.'s -
Booker T. Jones - "Everything Is Everything"
Booker T. And The M.G.'s - Green Onions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booker_T._Jones
Booker T. Jones
Booker Taliaferro Jones, Jr.[1] (born November 12, 1944) is an American multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, record producer and arranger, best known as the frontman of the band Booker T. & the M.G.'s. He has also worked in the studios with many well-known artists of the 20th and 21st centuries, earning him a Grammy Award for lifetime achievement.[2]
Biography
Early life
Booker T. Jones was born in Memphis, Tennessee, on November 12, 1944. He was named after his father, Booker T. Jones, Sr., who was named in honor of Booker T. Washington,
the educator. Booker T. Jones, Sr. was a science teacher at the school,
providing the family with a relatively stable, lower middle-class
lifestyle.[3]
Jones was musically a child prodigy, playing the oboe, saxophone, trombone, bass, and piano at school and organ at church. Jones attended Booker T. Washington High School, the alma mater of Rufus Thomas, and contributed with future stars like Isaac Hayes's writing partner David Porter, saxophonist Andrew Love of the Memphis Horns, soul singer/songwriter William Bell, and Earth, Wind & Fire's Maurice White.[citation needed]
Jones's entry into professional music came at the age of 16, when he played baritone saxophone on Satellite (soon to be Stax) Records' first hit, "Cause I Love You," by Carla and Rufus (Thomas). Willie Mitchell hired Jones for his band, in which Jones started on sax and later moved to bass. It was here that he met Al Jackson Jr., who he brought to Stax.[4] Simultaneously, Jones formed a combo with White and Porter, in which he played guitar.[3]
While hanging around the Satellite Record Shop run by Estelle Axton, co-owner of Satellite Records with her brother Jim Stewart, Jones met record clerk Steve Cropper,
who would become one of the MGs when the group formed in 1962. Besides
Jones on organ and Cropper on guitar, Booker T. and the MGs featured Lewie Steinberg on bass guitar and Al Jackson, Jr. on drums (Donald "Duck" Dunn eventually replacing Steinberg). While still in high school, Jones co-wrote the group's classic instrumental "Green Onions," which was a massive hit in 1962.
Bob Altshuler wrote the sleeve notes on the first Booker T. & the M.G.'s album Green Onions released by Stax Records in 1962:
- [His] musical talents became apparent at a very early age. By the time he entered high school, Booker was already a semi-professional, and quickly recognized as the most talented musician in his school. He was appointed director of the school band for four years, and in addition, organized the school dance orchestra which played for proms throughout the Mid-South. In the classroom, he concentrated on the studies of music theory and harmony. ... Booker's multiple activities earned him a coveted honour, that of being listed in the students' "Who's Who of American High Schools." Booker's first instrument was the string bass, but he soon switched to the organ. Booker came to the attention of record executive Jim Stewart in Memphis, and while still in high school he worked as a staff musician for Stax Records, appearing as sideman on many recording dates for that label. It became obvious that one day Booker would be ready to record under his own name and several months later Booker's first recording session was set.
Over the next few years, Jones divided his time between studying classical music composition, composing and transposition at Indiana University, playing with the MGs on the weekends back in Memphis,[5] serving as a session musician with other Stax acts, and writing songs that became widely regarded as classics. He wrote, with Eddie Floyd, "I've Never Found a Girl (To Love Me Like You Do)," Otis Redding's "I Love You More Than Words Can Say," and, with William Bell, bluesman Albert King's "Born Under a Bad Sign" (later popularized by the cover version recorded by the British power trio Cream).
In 1970, Jones moved to California and stopped playing sessions for Stax after becoming frustrated with Stax's treatment of the MGs as employees rather than musicians. Even though Jones was given the title of Vice President at Stax before leaving, as he put it, "There were titles given (to us) but we didn't actually make the decisions."[6] While still under contract to Stax, he appeared on Stephen Stills's eponymous album (1970). The 1971 album Melting Pot would be the last Booker T. & the M.G.'s album issued on Stax.
Jones was married to Priscilla Coolidge in 1969, sister of singer Rita Coolidge. He produced Priscilla's first album Gypsy Queen in 1970; then the pair collaborated as a duo on three albums: 1971's Booker T. & Priscilla, 1972's Home Grown, and 1973's Chronicles, and Jones produced Priscilla's final solo album, Flying, in 1979, right as their marriage ended that year.[7]
Making the charts as a solo artist in 1981 with "I Want You," he produced an album by Rita Coolidge, plus Bill Withers's debut album Just as I Am (on which Jones played guitar as well as keyboards), and Willie Nelson's album Stardust. Jones has also added his keyboard playing to artists ranging from the R&B/pop/blues of Ray Charles to the folk rock/country rock of Neil Young.
On June 18, 1985, Jones married Nanine Warhurst. They have three children together, and an additional five stepchildren from their prior relationships.
On March 1, 1995, Booker T. & the MGs won their first Grammy Award for Best Pop Instrumental Performance for the song "Cruisin'". Jones still plays with the MGs and his own small combo called the Booker T. Jones Band. His current touring group includes Vernon "Ice" Black (guitar), Darian Gray (drums), and Melvin Brannon (bass).
Jones was inducted into The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992, and was honored with a Grammy Award for Lifetime Achievement on February 11, 2007.[8]
In 2007, Jones was also inducted into the Musicians Hall of Fame and Museum in Nashville, Tennessee.
In 2009 he released a new solo album, Potato Hole, recorded with the Drive-By Truckers,[9] and featuring Neil Young. He performed at the Bonnaroo Music Festival with Drive-By Truckers on June 6, 2009, with a set including most tracks from Potato Hole as well as some Truckers tracks. On January 31, 2010, Potato Hole won the Best Instrumental Album award at the 52nd Annual Grammy Awards.
He is featured on the new Rancid album Let the Dominoes Fall, playing a Hammond B-3 on the track "Up To No Good."
Jones also played his B-3 on the track "If It Wasn't For Bad" from the Elton John and Leon Russell collaboration album titled The Union. The track was nominated at the 53rd Annual Grammy Awards for Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals.[citation needed]
In 2011, Jones released The Road from Memphis. The backing band included Questlove (drums), "Captain" Kirk Douglas (guitar) and Owen Biddle (bass) from the Roots as well as former Motown guitarist Dennis Coffey and percussionist Stewart Killen. The album features vocals by Yim Yames, Matt Berninger, Lou Reed, Sharon Jones and Booker T. himself, as well as lyrics contributed by his daughter/manager Liv Jones. Jones also recorded with party band the Gypsy Queens on their eponymous album.[10]
On February 12, 2012, The Road from Memphis won at the 54th Annual Grammy Awards for Best Pop Instrumental Album. Jones holds a total of four Grammy Awards.
Jones received an honorary doctorate degree from Indiana University's Jacobs School of Music
at its 2012 undergraduate commencement. Jones originally attended
Indiana University in the 1960s, even staying after his smash-hit Stax Records recordings.
Jones was featured on organ for singer Kelly Hogan on Hogan's 2013 release on Anti-Records, I Like to Keep Myself in Pain.
In June 2013, Jones released his 10th album, Sound The Alarm, on Stax Records after originally leaving the label more than 40 years previously in 1971. The album features guest artists Anthony Hamilton, Raphael Saadiq, Jay James, Mayer Hawthorne, Estelle, Vintage Trouble, Gary Clark, Jr., Luke James, and Booker's son Ted Jones.[11] That summer he performed at the TD Kitchener Blues Festival in Ontario.[12]
On 1 September 2017, at age 72, Booker T. Jones performed live at the Royal Albert Hall BBC Proms with Jools Holland and his Rhythm & Blues Orchestra in a tribute concert honoring the 50th anniversary of Stax Records alongside Steve Cropper, Sam Moore, William Bell and British artists Beverley Knight, Ruby Turner, James Morrison and Tom Jones.
Albums by Booker T.
See also Booker T. & the M.G.'s.
- Evergreen (1974)
- Try And Love Again (1978)
- The Best of You (1980)
- I Want You (1981)
- Runaway (1989)
- Potato Hole (2009)
- The Road from Memphis (2011)
- Sound the Alarm (2013)
Current lineup
- Booker T. Jones (keyboards)
- Ted Jones (guitar)
- Darian Gray (drums)
- Melvin Brannon, Jr. aka M-Cat Spoony (bass)
Notes
Eagle, Bob; LeBlanc, Eric S. (2013). Blues - A Regional Experience. Santa Barbara: Praeger Publishers. p. 250. ISBN 978-0313344237.
Booker T. Jones (February 7, 2012). "Lifetime Achievement Award: The Memphis Horns". Grammy.com.
Bowman 1997, p. 36.
Bowman 1997, p. 37.
Ware, Vron and Les Back. Out of Whiteness: Color, Politics, and Culture, The University of Chicago Press, 2001, p. 245. Excerpt at books.google.com.
Bowman 1997, p. 186.
Megan Diskin, "Murder-suicide victim was sister of Rita Coolidge", Ventura County Star, October 5, 2014.
"The Doors celebrate Grammy honour", BBC News, February 11, 2007.
Mansfield, Brian. "Booker T. emerges from his 'Hole'", USA Today, January 15, 2009.
Ventura Highway — The Gypsy Queens Feat. Dewey Bunnell, Booker T. Jones & Gerry Beckley, DR.dk.
Eric R. Danton, "Soul Man Booker T. Jones Keeps Having ‘Fun’ (Song Premiere)", The Wall Street Journal, April 16, 2013.
- "TD Kitchener Blues Festival". The Scene, Allanah Pinhorn August 12, 2013.
References
Wikimedia Commons has media related to Booker T. Jones.
- Ware, Vron (2001). Out of Whiteness: Color, Politics, and Culture. University of Chicago Press. ISBN 0-226-87342-0.
- Bowman, Rob (1997). Soulsville USA: The Story of Stax Records. Music Sales Group. ISBN 0-8256-7284-8.
External links
- Official website
- Booker T. Jones interview by Pete Lewis, Blues & Soul, June 2011
- "Booker T Jones Interview: Bye bye to the blues", The Scotsman, April 8, 2009
- Noel Murray, "Booker T. Jones", A.V. Club, May 4, 2009
- wtop.com: article
- "TD Kitchener Blues Festival". The Scene, Allanah Pinhorn August 12, 2013.
References
Wikimedia Commons has media related to Booker T. Jones. |
- Ware, Vron (2001). Out of Whiteness: Color, Politics, and Culture. University of Chicago Press. ISBN 0-226-87342-0.
- Bowman, Rob (1997). Soulsville USA: The Story of Stax Records. Music Sales Group. ISBN 0-8256-7284-8.
External links
- Official website
- Booker T. Jones interview by Pete Lewis, Blues & Soul, June 2011
- "Booker T Jones Interview: Bye bye to the blues", The Scotsman, April 8, 2009
- Noel Murray, "Booker T. Jones", A.V. Club, May 4, 2009
- wtop.com: article